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Stafford Sim train routing

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Stafford Sim train routing 22/03/2016 at 22:42 #81309
AlexRail575
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Hello

I was wondering, whether it is possible to route trains that are scheduled to pass via the Up Slow line at Stafford (platform 4) and go on to Trent Valley Jn, through the Up Fast line instead (between platforms 1 and 3). This could potentially help when there's a train that needs to go towards Bushbury (0B99 in the picture) and there's a train that proceeds towards Nuneaton (i.e. 6O62 in the picture)



Thanks,

Alex

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Stafford Sim train routing 22/03/2016 at 23:00 #81310
BarryM
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If you can signal the train that way, then yes. There are no restrictions anywhere as long as you can signal the route.

Barry

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Stafford Sim train routing 22/03/2016 at 23:06 #81311
AlexRail575
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But would the driver refuse the route?

Does the same apply if I change the platform of passing freight trains because of signal/track circuit/... failure?

See example, where 6V74 is already some 6 minutes late (running with the Crewe delays scenario) and Sig SD4 40 has failed.

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Stafford Sim train routing 22/03/2016 at 23:26 #81313
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As a rule of thumb in most sims where a station is concerned, a train will accept any route through the station regardless of platform. The only exceptions being passenger trains not accepting goods lines (but in some cases will accept suitable through lines!) and trains requiring specific power types - so you can't route a train needing overhead electric power through a platform with no OHLE.

Similar rules of thumb apply to fast/slow lines - as long as the train passes its timetable points, it doesn't matter which line it is on so between Stafford and Crewe for example you can run freight trains on the fast lines and class 1 passenger trains on the slow if you so desire.

There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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Stafford Sim train routing 22/03/2016 at 23:30 #81315
AlexRail575
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Ok

So that means that I just need to afterwards manually amend the timetable of trains that were supposed to pass through Trent Valley Jn.

Thanks for the fast replies

Alex

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Stafford Sim train routing 23/03/2016 at 00:12 #81316
pedroathome
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Not got the sim open here to confirm either way, but usually a junction labelled like that would be classed over all the lines there, so there should be no need to do anything to the timetable, just let the train run.
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Stafford Sim train routing 23/03/2016 at 00:57 #81317
AlexRail575
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Ok thanks noticed that too.

But one train (forgot the ID) somehow (bug?) didn't 'pass' it's scheduled location so I wrongly assumed I'd have to manually do it for every single train.

Anyway thanks for the help and the answers

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Stafford Sim train routing 23/03/2016 at 06:34 #81318
Peter Bennet
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If the train simply passes through a [non-ARS] sim and has no activities (stop/join/reverse) at a particular location you can probably get away with not having to amend the timetable.

Peter

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Stafford Sim train routing 23/03/2016 at 10:04 #81319
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As Barry said, if the signalled routes exist (and there's not some other reason - electrification, or a specific restriction applying to certain rolling stock, for instance) you pull off by whatever route you can find and keep the job moving.

At Kensington Olympia in the old days there were 4 lines through the station, with a biggish mechanical box at each end (both had 63 working levers, North Main in a 66 lever frame with 3 spaces and no spares while South Main had, IIRC, a 76 lever frame with 13 spare). The up main and platform and the down main were unidirectional (but with the old Regulation 32 - working in reverse - authorised for shunting moves). The down platform was fully reversibly signalled so it could be used for arriving Motorail trains from the north, but as it also had a starter so it could be used to depart the infamous 'Kensington Belle' it could be used, if the rest of the station was blocked, as a single line to keep things moving. (As Kensington had an alternative name of 'Stopem Junction' that sort of blockage was not rare. Unfortunately, the resident signalmen down there weren't that inclined to use the facilities they had and it was only when there were a couple of reliefmen in the boxes that things would really hum.)

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