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| 5E38 train in front 29/08/2016 at 15:49 #84405 | |
as1981
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All, I'm running the four day 2013 timetable. 5E38 won't move because it thinks that 5E37 is in front of it. (image attached) However it doesn't seem to be? 5E37 is on down slow 2 according to the panel and the F2 list. Can anyone advise why this is happening? I always seem to have similar problems at this point in the timetable so I'm missing something? Also is it not possible to put some of the trains into Hornsey Rev 2? If I put them in and then try and route over the flyover it often tells me that the subroute is locked in the opposite direction. Thanks Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 29/08/2016 at 16:13 #84406 | |
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John
884 posts |
5E37 is standing at 403 on the Down Slow 2. The overlap for 403 appears to be occupied. F2 shows that 5E38 is facing in the up direction and is complaining that 5E37 is in front. It looks as though 5E38 has somehow travelled in the wrong direction straight towards 5E37. Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 29/08/2016 at 16:27 #84409 | |
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as1981
21 posts |
Hello, Thank you for your help. So the label for 5E38 and the F2 list aren't accurate? The train is actually in the 403 overlap? If I'm correct then is that because the system 'steps up' a train describer based on the expected path rather than it's actual location? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 29/08/2016 at 16:28 #84410 | |
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Finger
220 posts |
A save would certainly show more than a thousand words, but: The first and foremost problem is that you don't know where 5E38 IS. You inscribed it in an empty berth in Rev Sdg 1, but that siding is empty. Also, I don't get why did you set the route from that siding, are you expecting a ghost train there? You say Quote: Also is it not possible to put some of the trains into Hornsey Rev 2? If I put them in and then try and route over the flyover it often tells me that the subroute is locked in the opposite direction.Of course it is possible to put trains there. Only some trains are longer than the siding and require reversing on the DS2 (you'll see it in their timetable). Now given that you ask that question AND 5E37 actually being one of those trains, I suspect that:
That would mean you can reverse 5E38, fix its timetable and try again. It is actually just next to 5E37 as you've been told. A general comment, I would advise you to own up to your actions. Had you said what you'd done with 5E38, the situation would be much clearer and easier to understand. Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 29/08/2016 at 17:43 #84413 | |
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as1981
21 posts |
Hello, Thank you for your reply and help. I gave all the info I had. I've just managed to replicate what I did: I put 5E38 into Rev Sdg 1. I couldn't send it via the flyover. I think it's too long. I reversed it I then went to look at another issue on the panel and hadn't realised that a) the description for 5E38 hasn't moved with it and b) there was something in the overlap on 403. Having come back to it I couldn't work out what had happened. I hadn't taken a note of what I'd done because I hadn't realised that the train ID would not move so thought I'd be able to see the status, from the ID's, when I came back. Thanks Andrew Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 29/08/2016 at 18:16 #84414 | |
Peter Bennet
5400 posts |
Generally, a TD step is triggered by the train occupying a TC and it steps to the next Berth the train is heading for. However, to do that the step is usually conditional on some factor being true, usually a [specific] route is set. So when a train leaves (say) siding 1 - hits the next TC the TD will step to a Berth as specified by the condition (TRG=T987; CON=R123AS and so on) where R123xS are the routes available. If a train is talked past a signal, for example, then the step condition will not be met (no route set) so the TD goes nowhere, or is deleted if there's a step to nowhere triggered by a TC becoming empty. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 29/08/2016 at 21:36 #84417 | |
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Airvan00
129 posts |
Yes a save would help to see what is going on. The main thing to watch with those reversing sidings is that they only hold 8 cars so if it's a 12 then it must use the DS ( and all the timetables that I have used show that clearly). A few things from the screen shot. There is no train in rev1 ( noted above) The TD for 5E35 is further along the DS. (Was a train reversed but the instruction given to the wrong train?) How did 1D07 get into plat8 at FP? ( I've never seen that) I would go back to the last save and go forward very slowly and make sure I understand where every train is and where it is suppose to go. Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 30/08/2016 at 00:27 #84420 | |
BarryM
2158 posts |
" said:Yes a save would help to see what is going on.. To answer your questions: You sent 5E38 in the wrong direction on the Down Slow 2. The sim will leave the headcode behind. You have signalled the headcode to Harringay Reversing Sidings. You must have instructed the wrong train. That is not 1D07! Not sure what it is. May be empty cars running late. I see on your attachment 2K14 on the Down Slow. It is not 2K14-1! It is 2V14-1. How did that come about? A finger slip? Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| 5E38 train in front 31/08/2016 at 19:12 #84440 | |
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as1981
21 posts |
All, Thank you for your comments and help. Andrew Log in to reply |