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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 30/11/2016 at 10:55 #89600
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I've been playing through Steamers 2016 timetable for Edge Hill and nothing seems to be coming out of Allerton Depot, even though on the timetable there is stuff booked out of it.
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 30/11/2016 at 15:57 #89602
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Do the timetables validate in TT Analyser?
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 30/11/2016 at 16:31 #89603
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Just tested and cannot reproduce. Started the 04:45 version, 5F01 entered from Allerton at 04:46.

Is it a problem with all trains, or just specific ones?

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 30/11/2016 at 17:44 #89604
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Ran this timetable for a while now, I have multiple trains between 0445-0615 coming out of the depot?
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 30/11/2016 at 22:18 #89611
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I think its because they are set at 50%, but I play through from 0000-0700 and not one entered.
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 30/11/2016 at 22:59 #89613
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WinsfordSaltMine in post 89611 said:
I think its because they are set at 50%, but I play through from 0000-0700 and not one entered.
The 'Runs as Required' box is unticked, so the value in the box is irrelevant. They should always run.

What Loader and Simulation version are you using?

Can you confirm that there are no routes set into the siding marked 'CS'? (Just eliminating possibilities)

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 30/11/2016 at 23:26 #89614
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Win, try rebooting your computer. It may fix the problem.

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 01/12/2016 at 23:42 #89640
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Current Loader and newest version of Timetable, and no route is set into the depot. I would up load a screen shot, but its not working.
Last edited: 01/12/2016 at 23:48 by WinsfordSaltMine
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 01/12/2016 at 23:51 #89641
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All the trains that don't enter have 'Final Destination should not have a departure time specified', could that be the problem.
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 01/12/2016 at 23:51 #89642
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 02/12/2016 at 09:04 #89645
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WinsfordSaltMine in post 89641 said:
All the trains that don't enter have 'Final Destination should not have a departure time specified', could that be the problem.
No as that's a warning not an error.

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 02/12/2016 at 10:43 #89648
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WinsfordSaltMine in post 89641 said:
All the trains that don't enter have 'Final Destination should not have a departure time specified', could that be the problem.
What are the train numbers of the trains that will not enter?

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 02/12/2016 at 11:36 #89650
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WinsfordSaltMine in post 89640 said:
Current Loader and newest version of Timetable, and no route is set into the depot. I would up load a screen shot, but its not working.
Can we have the version numbers of the simulation and Loader please? 'Latest' is useless...

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 02/12/2016 at 19:55 #89658
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Loader V4.5.12
Sim: 2.1

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 02/12/2016 at 21:00 #89660
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WinsfordSaltMine in post 89658 said:
Loader V4.5.12
Sim: 2.1
Have you some train number that are not entering?

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 02/12/2016 at 23:40 #89670
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BarryM in post 89660 said:
WinsfordSaltMine in post 89658 said:
Loader V4.5.12
Sim: 2.1
Have you some train number that are not entering?

Barry
He's said earlier in the thread that it's all of them. 5F01 is the first one due out.

I'm honestly stuck on this one. I've just done a fast run through of the timetable and 5F01 appeared as expected. Has anyone else been able to reproduce the bug?

Until the attachments feature is fixed and you can upload a saved game, I don't know what else to suggest.

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 03/12/2016 at 11:43 #89675
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My version..

SimSig Loader: v4.5.12
Sim: v2.1

Not had any issue with this timetable from Steamer, All trains enter when they should including the ECS's off Allerton Depot.

One Suggestion?
Maybe remove EdgeHill.sim and then re-download the sim again this usually resolves any issues.

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 03/12/2016 at 12:05 #89676
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HST125Scorton in post 89675 said:
One Suggestion?
Maybe remove EdgeHill.sim and then re-download the sim again this usually resolves any issues.
With all due, how is that actually going to help? Similarly the "re-boot your computer" suggestion a few posts back. The problem is a train won't enter. The possible reasons for that are:

1) An invalid WTT for the trains in question.
2) A blocked entry point.
3) insufficient rolling stock at location (if the sim has been coded so)

1 I think we have ruled out previously; 3 would effect everyone if sim was coded incorrectly; or you'd get some entries and then nothing; so to 2. Has a train not fallen off sim at Edge Hill when it should? Are there any isolations, reminders, occupied tracks that may be preventing entry? It seems strange that only you are experiencing the issue, so it's difficult to rule out some kind of user error at this stage.

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 03/12/2016 at 14:28 #89678
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JamesN in post 89676 said:
HST125Scorton in post 89675 said:
One Suggestion?
Maybe remove EdgeHill.sim and then re-download the sim again this usually resolves any issues.
With all due, how is that actually going to help?
If Noel has again released an "update" without bumping the version number?

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 03/12/2016 at 15:06 #89679
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Makes no difference Ben as the updates have not affected that location.
There is no rolling stock accountancy at the location so that is not affecting it.
Have you tried restarting the session from scratch?
Have you tried creating a blank TT then create just one train entering at that loc to see what happens?

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 03/12/2016 at 16:16 #89680
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It worked once session was restarted from scratch, don't know what the problem was though that caused it.
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 03/12/2016 at 16:22 #89681
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I have ver 2.1 of this sim and ver 2.0 (with it not updating as it should ie having to delete the .sim file first I saved a copy of ver 2.0)

I can say and for me trains are entering from Allerton CS and Dep roads on both versions

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 03/12/2016 at 16:41 #89682
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WinsfordSaltMine in post 89680 said:
It worked once session was restarted from scratch, don't know what the problem was though that caused it.
Did you have any of the track closure scenarios in use when the trains weren't entering?

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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 05/12/2016 at 10:29 #89698
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Nope no track closures or anything, but I played 0000-0700 and nothing from Allerton entered, I tested the 0445 start and they did, could it be something to do with the 0000 starting timetable?.
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Nothing Entering from Allerton Depot 05/12/2016 at 19:23 #89704
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WinsfordSaltMine in post 89698 said:
Nope no track closures or anything, but I played 0000-0700 and nothing from Allerton entered, I tested the 0445 start and they did, could it be something to do with the 0000 starting timetable?.
Nope, I tested the 00:00 start a few days ago when investigating this, and no-one else has reported any issue. Can you test it again on your machine? (Just launch the timetable, set speed to maximum and let the simulation run- it doesn't matter that other trains will back up, just wait until 04:50 when the first ECS should enter).

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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