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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 15:52 #93719
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Cardiff, Cardiff Valleys, and Cardiff Vale of Glamorgan have now been released.

Cardiff £30
Cardiff Valleys £15
Cardiff Vale of Glamorgan £7.50

Purchase all three for £40 until April 18th, £45 thereafter.

Please press check for updates, and have a good read of the manual before having a go.

"As the last track dropped, and the route became free, came the cry BROMLEY " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 16:26 #93724
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Many thanks to the developers for these great sims
2020. The year your bin goes out more than you do
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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 18:41 #93736
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C525 > C127 seems to set but not clears to proceed is this an issue or am I doing stuff wrong?
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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 19:26 #93738
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madaboutrains in post 93736 said:
C525 > C127 seems to set but not clears to proceed is this an issue or am I doing stuff wrong?
Reported, 17016 applies here

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 19:52 #93740
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All for Valleys:

Trains calling at red "signals" at Treherbert do not ring the Radyr signaller in multiplayer, but instead phone the host.

Also, trains disappearing off the sim at Treherbert will ring in as Train ID "None" to report that they are complete and clear in the sidings, presumably as they've already dropped off the sim when they phone.

What is the "Release Both" option on the Cwmbargoed branch used for? I can't imagine wanting to issue both a ticket and a staff to the same train, and surely you don't just ask a driver to choose whichever he wants!

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:02 #93741
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For error reporting please post in the relevant section of released sims

For Cardiff https://www.simsig.co.uk/Forum/BoardView/187
For Cardiff Vally's https://www.simsig.co.uk/Forum/BoardView/188
For Cardiff Vale of Glamorgan https://www.simsig.co.uk/Forum/BoardView/189

This will help Identify the sim it belong's to

For timetable problems please see timetable section in forums.

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:06 #93742
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Danny252 in post 93740 said:
All for Valleys:

Trains calling at red "signals" at Treherbert do not ring the Radyr signaller in multiplayer, but instead phone the host.

Also, trains disappearing off the sim at Treherbert will ring in as Train ID "None" to report that they are complete and clear in the sidings, presumably as they've already dropped off the sim when they phone.

What is the "Release Both" option on the Cwmbargoed branch used for? I can't imagine wanting to issue both a ticket and a staff to the same train, and surely you don't just ask a driver to choose whichever he wants!
For the token calls, the train ID on the phone will be what is in the relevant TD berth at the time, so I suggest waiting for the call before changing the description.

Karl informs me Treherbert calls are intended

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:11 #93743
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Quote:
For the token calls, the train ID on the phone will be what is in the relevant TD berth at the time, so I suggest waiting for the call before changing the description.
Will rely less on F2 to check whether the train has disappeared in future!

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:12 #93744
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Danny252 in post 93740 said:
All for Valleys:

Trains calling at red "signals" at Treherbert do not ring the Radyr signaller in multiplayer, but instead phone the host.

Also, trains disappearing off the sim at Treherbert will ring in as Train ID "None" to report that they are complete and clear in the sidings, presumably as they've already dropped off the sim when they phone.

What is the "Release Both" option on the Cwmbargoed branch used for? I can't imagine wanting to issue both a ticket and a staff to the same train, and surely you don't just ask a driver to choose whichever he wants!
I'll add to the manual over the next couple of days, but it's normal for you to want to send both down the branch.

"As the last track dropped, and the route became free, came the cry BROMLEY " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:15 #93745
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Danny252 in post 93743 said:
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For the token calls, the train ID on the phone will be what is in the relevant TD berth at the time, so I suggest waiting for the call before changing the description.
Will rely less on F2 to check whether the train has disappeared in future!
In reality the signaller wouldn't know it was in clear until the driver rang, F2 doesn't exist in reality. Until the driver phones in the sim won't see the token back so you won't be able to send anything else anyway.

Also, even after the train has gone, if the GF is still in use the driver won't call as it's released by the token.

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:17 #93746
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headshot119 in post 93744 said:
Danny252 in post 93740 said:
What is the "Release Both" option on the Cwmbargoed branch used for? I can't imagine wanting to issue both a ticket and a staff to the same train, and surely you don't just ask a driver to choose whichever he wants!
I'll add to the manual over the next couple of days, but it's normal for you to want to send both down the branch.
I had thought that "ticket" referred to the normal method of tickets kept in locked boxes unlocked by the staff, but given the lack of a supervising signalman at the other end, I guess the ticket is of a somewhat different form in this case?

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:22 #93747
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pedroathome in post 93738 said:
madaboutrains in post 93736 said:
C525 > C127 seems to set but not clears to proceed is this an issue or am I doing stuff wrong?
Reported, 17016 applies here
Fixed and simulation version 1.0.1 available via check for updates.

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 20:47 #93749
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VoG: AW7 to AW222 will clear even with the overlap (TAWVDX) showing occupied (due to TCF).

Cardiff: The overlap for 112-114 or 12-114 (Down Relief at Cardiff East) is valid with points 817B in either position, and will allow 817B to swing Normal to Reverse. However, it does not allow it to swing Reverse to Normal, preventing a route being set from 114 into P3/P4 unless the route to 114 is cancelled first (and re-set after).

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 21:03 #93750
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pedroathome in post 93738 said:
madaboutrains in post 93736 said:
C525 > C127 seems to set but not clears to proceed is this an issue or am I doing stuff wrong?
Reported, 17016 applies here
Glad to help

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 21:23 #93754
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Could I please ask that people post any simulation issues in the relevant forum thread and not this one.

It makes it a bit easier for me and the testers to follow.

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Cardiff Trio Released 18/03/2017 at 21:38 #93757
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Danny252 in post 93749 said:
VoG: AW7 to AW222 will clear even with the overlap (TAWVDX) showing occupied (due to TCF).

Cardiff: The overlap for 112-114 or 12-114 (Down Relief at Cardiff East) is valid with points 817B in either position, and will allow 817B to swing Normal to Reverse. However, it does not allow it to swing Reverse to Normal, preventing a route being set from 114 into P3/P4 unless the route to 114 is cancelled first (and re-set after).
Cardiff 112 / 12 - 114 Reported as 0017019

Assuming these are the points you mean?


As for the SAW 7 - SAW 222, looks like the overlap isn't part of the route. Reported as 17020

Also as Karl said, be easier to keep issues in separate threads to make it easier to follow

James

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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 00:39 #93778
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Danny252 in post 93749 said:
VoG: AW7 to AW222 will clear even with the overlap (TAWVDX) showing occupied (due to TCF).

Cardiff: The overlap for 112-114 or 12-114 (Down Relief at Cardiff East) is valid with points 817B in either position, and will allow 817B to swing Normal to Reverse. However, it does not allow it to swing Reverse to Normal, preventing a route being set from 114 into P3/P4 unless the route to 114 is cancelled first (and re-set after).
Both issues fixed.

Cardiff 1.0.2 and Cardiff Vale of Glamorgan 1.0.1 available via check for updates.

"As the last track dropped, and the route became free, came the cry BROMLEY " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 12:37 #93805
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If any non-UK (or lesser-travelled) users want to learn how to pronounce some of the Welsh names, this video I found may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ5avfkoHww

You'll hear the Welsh first, followed by English.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 12:53 #93807
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Just on the 25/05/2016 timetable and 6J88 needs to reverse Ninian Park - however it says there is no route between signals 322 & LOSDT. You can only set a route from 322 to 324 which of course causes 6J88 to overhang the points so it can't head to Canton Stabling Sidings
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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 12:57 #93808
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Jezzabusdriver in post 93807 said:
Just on the 25/05/2016 timetable and 6J88 needs to reverse Ninian Park - however it says there is no route between signals 322 & LOSDT. You can only set a route from 322 to 324 which of course causes 6J88 to overhang the points so it can't head to Canton Stabling Sidings
Which start time did you use ?

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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 12:58 #93809
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headshot119 in post 93808 said:
Jezzabusdriver in post 93807 said:
Just on the 25/05/2016 timetable and 6J88 needs to reverse Ninian Park - however it says there is no route between signals 322 & LOSDT. You can only set a route from 322 to 324 which of course causes 6J88 to overhang the points so it can't head to Canton Stabling Sidings
Which start time did you use ?
04:30 start time

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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 14:57 #93825
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Jezzabusdriver in post 93809 said:
headshot119 in post 93808 said:
Jezzabusdriver in post 93807 said:
Just on the 25/05/2016 timetable and 6J88 needs to reverse Ninian Park - however it says there is no route between signals 322 & LOSDT. You can only set a route from 322 to 324 which of course causes 6J88 to overhang the points so it can't head to Canton Stabling Sidings
Which start time did you use ?
04:30 start time
Mantis 17033 - Fixed press check for updates and you'll get Version 1.0.2 of the 0430 TT.

"As the last track dropped, and the route became free, came the cry BROMLEY " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 19:09 #93854
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From what I can see this looks good, but I do like to see the layout prior to buying as you previously could see but this facility no longer appears available on the product page for the three new sims. Is that because of the new website or am I just going blind?
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Cardiff Trio Released 19/03/2017 at 19:13 #93855
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bri2808 in post 93854 said:
From what I can see this looks good, but I do like to see the layout prior to buying as you previously could see but this facility no longer appears available on the product page for the three new sims. Is that because of the new website or am I just going blind?
You can download and run the simulations before purchase. Pick a TT that starts at midnight to have a look at the area, and one of the 1400 starts to get the full daytime experience! The demo mode lasts for around 10 simulation minutes.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Cardiff Trio Released 22/03/2017 at 18:42 #94003
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Can't seem to find these in check for updates. Am I missing something obvious? :-)
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