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A Fylde Farewell... 20/04/2018 at 18:40 #107638
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Couple of photos from my local station Poulton-le-Fylde, The missing Poulton No.3 Signal Box leaves an open space when it once stood.




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A Fylde Farewell... 29/04/2018 at 20:20 #107765
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Update 29th April 2018.

Plenty has been going on with the training runs plus the 1 train per hour to/from Manchester Airport. This week (30-04) the Yorks/Leeds services will return Blackpool Crewed only.. So will be 2 trains per hour to/from Manchester Airport and York.

6th May 2018 from 21:00hrs with hope the OHLE will become live. There has been a delay on the live date due to tweaks needed to be made and also regarding a 'missing' neutral section.. Once the OHLE is live and kicking at 25k we hope to see Northern 319s and VT Pendolinos (Overnight Runs) on test runs between Blackpool North and Preston. Once all complete a full new timetable will commence from 20th May 2018.

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A Fylde Farewell... 29/04/2018 at 20:22 #107766
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Images of the OHLE Notices Provided




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A Fylde Farewell... 19/05/2018 at 21:20 #108104
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The first three Northern 319s have arrived at Blackpool North Car.M.D. Units are 319424, 319442 & 319431. Picture at Blackpool North provided by Gordon Head with permission.


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A Fylde Farewell... 10/12/2018 at 21:38 #113896
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An update other other half of the electrification program.
Euxton Jn to Manchester, via Bolton is now fully electrified. Live Date was 9th December between 0001 and 0400.
Somewhat 2+ years later!!
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Pendolino OHLE Testing - Euxton Jn to Manchester Piccadilly via Chorley & Bolton.


Wednesday 12th December 2018
5Q01 0005 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q02 0120 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston
5Q03 0234 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q04 0327 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston

Thursday 13th December 2018
5Q05 0005 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q06 0120 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston
5Q07 0223 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q08 0327 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston

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A Fylde Farewell... 11/12/2018 at 09:21 #113902
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Being too lazy to look it up myself, I take it that the testing indicates that Virgin will be running intercity services on that line. If so, what's the intended route - Scotland to Manchester Piccadilly (and perhaps further south) via Bolton? I would say it was obvious, but having a Pendolino running via Oxford Road into Piccadilly platforms 13/14 seems a bit of a stretch of my imagination, given how busy that bit of line is!

(Or perhaps it's just for northbound ECS moves from Longsight, or simply a sensible case of checking it works now, rather than finding out it doesn't in ten years time?)

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A Fylde Farewell... 11/12/2018 at 09:42 #113903
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I'm not sure that conclusion holds. I don't think I've seen anywhere a stated interest in running that way. It would be an interesting diversionary route, but that's about all.

Perhaps instead of London to Scotland via the Birmingham loop they could send some via the Manchester loop. Though I'm not sure a Pendolino would fit in either 13/14 at Piccadilly or in Oxford Road, so I'm not sure what they would achieve.

More likely that a Pendolino has a high draw and they are testing with the largest power draw likely to go that way, and with Pendolinos spending the night at Longsight I'm sure it's not too much trouble to borrow one.

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A Fylde Farewell... 11/12/2018 at 09:53 #113904
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VWC are testing just the OHLE.
They will look to make four runs over 12 & 13th with repeated full power acceleration + boost and braking to draw as much power as possible and test resilience. So case of running upto 75mph then dropping to 40mph then back upto 75mph.

Pendo is booked for 11-Car, Ex 1P07 Euston to Preston, it will form the four testing trips then once back at Preston with form 5R07 to Lancaster for 1R07 to Euston.

VWC are not looking at adding additional services via Manchester Piccadilly.
It will be a diversionary route along with Chat Moss.

Only ECS services will be via Bolton to/from Longsight Car.M.D.

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A Fylde Farewell... 11/12/2018 at 09:55 #113905
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Danny252 in post 113902 said:
Being too lazy to look it up myself, I take it that the testing indicates that Virgin will be running intercity services on that line. If so, what's the intended route - Scotland to Manchester Piccadilly (and perhaps further south) via Bolton? I would say it was obvious, but having a Pendolino running via Oxford Road into Piccadilly platforms 13/14 seems a bit of a stretch of my imagination, given how busy that bit of line is!

(Or perhaps it's just for northbound ECS moves from Longsight, or simply a sensible case of checking it works now, rather than finding out it doesn't in ten years time?)
There used to be (in the era of swallows and class 47s) a morning Manchester to Edinburgh and evening return working via Bolton, but I would imagine more likely they are testing for potential Sunday diversions (when Oxford Road has some breathing space) in case of engineering on the WCML.

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A Fylde Farewell... 11/12/2018 at 12:46 #113906
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Virgin operated passenger services via Bolton until (approximately) 2008. The route was then transferred to TPE, which started Airport- Scotland services.

VT retained route knowledge for diversions (there was a regular 57+390 working on Sunday mornings) but this may have lapsed, as they haven't worked over the line since electrification works began in earnest. The Chat Moss route was wired by that point, and therefore much more attractive as a diversion.

I understand that several 390s are fitted with OHLE test equipment, and this is the main reason they're being used (though I would hope that they will divert this way if the WCML is shut).

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A Fylde Farewell... 11/12/2018 at 13:37 #113907
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VT Route Knowledge did lapse, both from time and changes to the route. When I was learning Manchester-Preston via Bolton one of their trainers at Preston joined us and basically confirmed the above - diversionary and ECS route only, no plans to run regular services that way (and you'd struggle to squeeze them in via central Manchester)

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I understand that several 390s are fitted with OHLE test equipment, and this is the main reason they're being used (though I would hope that they will divert this way if the WCML is shut).
I believe its two, but could be wrong on that figure. However that is why a 390 was the first electric unit to Blackpool.

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A Fylde Farewell... 11/12/2018 at 20:26 #113912
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There were contingency plans for an instrumented Cl390 to come test the wires on the GW if Hitachi hadn't got the IETs working in time for the switch on a couple of years ago.

The OHLE monitoring equipment on them is very sophisticated - so much so that NR use the data in lieu of running their own OHLE test trains.

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A Fylde Farewell... 13/12/2018 at 15:45 #113945
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After working in as 1P09 London Euston to Preston
390107 worked the following last night

Wednesday 12th into 13th December 2018
5Q01 0005 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q02 0120 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston
5Q03 0234 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q04 0327 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston

It then forwarded as 5R07 Preston to Lancaster to form 1R07 to Euston upon then went into Depot.

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A Fylde Farewell... 14/12/2018 at 12:53 #113971
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After working in as 1P09 London Euston to Preston
390152 worked the following last night.

Thursday 14th December 2018
5Q05 0005 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q06 0120 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston
5Q07 0223 Preston to Manchester Piccadilly
5Q08 0327 Manchester Piccadilly to Preston

It then forwarded as 5R07 Preston to Lancaster to form 1R07 to Euston upon then went into Depot.

Northern will use a 319 between Manchester Victoria and Salford Cresent in the coming days.

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A Fylde Farewell... 15/12/2018 at 22:23 #114036
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Final one

319386 has tested the OHLE between Manchester Victoria and Salford Cresent via x3 runs (15-12-2018)
5Z10 2010 Manchester Vic.(Rev.Sdg) to Manchester Vic.(Rev.Sdg)

This now means electric services can start running.

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A Fylde Farewell... 15/12/2018 at 22:42 #114037
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HST125Scorton in post 114036 said:


This now means electric services can start running.
As soon as Northern pull their finger out, that is. Forgive me if I don't hold my breath...

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A Fylde Farewell... 15/12/2018 at 22:47 #114038
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TransPennine are going over during Feb 2019 I believe. VT are looking to having a couple of ECS's via that way to/from Longsight.
And Northern well maybe try again in May 2019... But some of the Preston/Manchester Picc/Airports could go over to 319s to free up 156/158s. Who knows.

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A Fylde Farewell... 16/12/2018 at 10:46 #114055
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They could, but Northern don't have a load of spare EMUs either - though it seems the route via Bolton will be one of the first to see the new units when they enter service.
There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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