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Latest versions of Windows 10. 19/12/2017 at 22:39 #104256
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Is any one having issues with Simsig and the lastest version of W10.

Mine is not seeing no check box (see image)


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Latest versions of Windows 10. 19/12/2017 at 22:58 #104257
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Please define "latest", as there are at least half a dozen different versions that could be classed as such.

Win+R - "winver"

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 00:48 #104258
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mackeral1234 in post 104256 said:
Is any one having issues with Simsig and the lastest version of W10.

Mine is not seeing no check box (see image)

No problems here. Can you click on the text to select the radio button in the network box - even if you can't see the radio button itself?

SimSig Boss
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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 02:04 #104259
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Are you using an Insider build of Windows? I had this problem a few versions back, 17025 I think...
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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 09:22 #104260
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mackeral1234 in post 104256 said:
Is any one having issues with Simsig and the lastest version of W10.
Since updating to v1709 my screen has become laggy when using SimSig (scrolling horizontally is very lumpy). According to both Lenovo and Windows10, drivers are all up to date.

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 10:24 #104263
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the creators upgrade has caused a lot of problems for some 32bit applications running under certain conditions on Win 10.

An update dated Dec 12 sorted this problem out.

Please try this update as within the flight sim world it has resolved most problems such as laggy screens etc.

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 15:19 #104268
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norman B in post 104263 said:
the creators upgrade has caused a lot of problems for some 32bit applications running under certain conditions on Win 10.

An update dated Dec 12 sorted this problem out.

Please try this update as within the flight sim world it has resolved most problems such as laggy screens etc.
Updates KB4054517 and KB4058043 installed on 13/12/17 without resolving problem. Do these 2 include your 12/12/17 update or do I need to go and find the update you recommend?

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 16:28 #104270
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Yes,those two updates have solved most problems which people had.

As with anything computerwise some people do not get sorted.that said have you updated to the latest graphics driver?

This is worth a try.If you are on the latest driver you can try rolling back to an earlier one which did not give you lags.

I have also seen that some Intel chips installed into laptops have a serious security risk associated with them. Lenovo ,HP and Dell laptops running i3,i5,i7 chips are at risk.A firmware update is available from your laptop producers site.

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 18:18 #104274
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Entry level machine running Intel(R)_Pentium(R) CPU N3540.

Lenovo system analyser reports that all drivers and firmware are up to date. There appears to be a graphics driver update on the Intel site but it will not install (not validated by the OEM).

It's not a showstopper, just a bit messy when I'm scrolling and only seems to have started since the last W10 update to 1709.

Thank for the help and advice, anyway.

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 18:44 #104275
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No problem.

Your chip is not affected ! Good news.

If I find anything that I think might help I will be in touch

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 18:53 #104277
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Windows 10 rolled out another big upgrade to Creator at 9am Pacific Time yesterday. Took approx 25 mins to restart on my 3 year old, 32 bit, PC but have had no issues with it since it installed.
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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 21:20 #104281
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norman B in post 104275 said:
No problem.

Your chip is not affected ! Good news.

If I find anything that I think might help I will be in touch
Well now, there's a thing. Without any intervention on my part and without any new updates it seems to have settled down and is scrolling normally now. I'll report back if it changes!

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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Latest versions of Windows 10. 20/12/2017 at 21:51 #104285
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bfcmik in post 104277 said:
Windows 10 rolled out another big upgrade to Creator at 9am Pacific Time yesterday. Took approx 25 mins to restart on my 3 year old, 32 bit, PC but have had no issues with it since it installed.
Almost entirely off topic, but I am astounded to read both that Windows 10 supports 32 bit, and that someone was selling 32 bit computers in this decade!

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 21/12/2017 at 01:04 #104290
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postal in post 104281 said:
norman B in post 104275 said:
No problem.

Your chip is not affected ! Good news.

If I find anything that I think might help I will be in touch
Well now, there's a thing. Without any intervention on my part and without any new updates it seems to have settled down and is scrolling normally now. I'll report back if it changes!
Just remembered I was trawling round t'internet yesterday to see if others were having similar problems. One suggestion was to check the "disable full-screen optimisations" on the Compatibility tab in the loader properties. Did that but the scrolling issues have also disappeared in other programs I am using so not sure whether that has had any real impact.

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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Latest versions of Windows 10. 21/12/2017 at 08:29 #104295
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Danny252 in post 104285 said:
bfcmik in post 104277 said:
Windows 10 rolled out another big upgrade to Creator at 9am Pacific Time yesterday. Took approx 25 mins to restart on my 3 year old, 32 bit, PC but have had no issues with it since it installed.
Almost entirely off topic, but I am astounded to read both that Windows 10 supports 32 bit, and that someone was selling 32 bit computers in this decade!
If it didn't support 32-bit, you wouldn't be able to run SimSig on it.

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 21/12/2017 at 10:23 #104301
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belly buster in post 104295 said:
Danny252 in post 104285 said:
bfcmik in post 104277 said:
Windows 10 rolled out another big upgrade to Creator at 9am Pacific Time yesterday. Took approx 25 mins to restart on my 3 year old, 32 bit, PC but have had no issues with it since it installed.
Almost entirely off topic, but I am astounded to read both that Windows 10 supports 32 bit, and that someone was selling 32 bit computers in this decade!
If it didn't support 32-bit, you wouldn't be able to run SimSig on it.
Sorry, my wording was bad - I meant that 32-bit versions of Windows 10 exist, rather than it being sold as a 64-bit OS only (with 32-bit compatibility).

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 21/12/2017 at 10:27 #104302
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Regarding the scrolling bug, the game OpenTTD recently ran into a scrolling bug with Windows 10, where right-click-dragging became very jerky - the bug report has quite a lot of detailed diagnosis and is caused by a change to internal Windows calls: https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6629

Does this happen to be related? I'm not entirely sure it is, as their bug refers to right-click-dragging and directly polling the mouse position, whilst postal's issue related to scroll bars that probably use a default Windows interface.

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 21/12/2017 at 10:53 #104303
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Danny252 in post 104302 said:
Regarding the scrolling bug, the game OpenTTD recently ran into a scrolling bug with Windows 10, where right-click-dragging became very jerky - the bug report has quite a lot of detailed diagnosis and is caused by a change to internal Windows calls: https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6629

Does this happen to be related? I'm not entirely sure it is, as their bug refers to right-click-dragging and directly polling the mouse position, whilst postal's issue related to scroll bars that probably use a default Windows interface.
Using a scroll wheel on the mouse rather than the scroll bars. The particular symptom on SimSig was that on some occasions scrolling left or right didn't scroll the whole display in real time. Instead a vertical strip of the screen would scroll but not the whole screen. The vertical strip was then repeated about 10 or a dozen times across the screen for a second or so before the whole screen re-displayed. Unfortunately neglected to get a screen grab while it was happening so can't give you a picture.

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Latest versions of Windows 10. 21/12/2017 at 11:49 #104304
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It appears that Microsoft has problems caused by poor inter deparetment communications.

The creators update team ended up with egg on their faces due to another team making some extra adjustments.This caused a problem.

Lockheed Martin raised the problem and also found some others yet,despite LM size and importance as a defence contractor LM still had to wait for December 12 to see if the fix worked!

It seems to me that if LM cannot get Microsoft to act outside its normal update pattern what chance do smaller developers stand when they in turn may discover OS problems.

The MS support teams had an awful lot of calls over this and the main solution on offer was if you still could do it roll back to the previous update!

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