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Waverley Platform Lengths 22/02/2018 at 22:25 #106087
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Could someone please give me some information.

I have a train in Platform 19 which is 69m long and another approaching which is 207m long.
All the Edinburgh manual tells me is that Platform 19 is permissive.
How do I know whether the platform is long enough to accommodate the second train?

The maunual doesn't give the lengths of platforms 1, 20 or 21 either.

Does anybody know?

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Waverley Platform Lengths 23/02/2018 at 13:46 #106094
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bugsy in post 106087 said:
Could someone please give me some information.

I have a train in Platform 19 which is 69m long and another approaching which is 207m long.
All the Edinburgh manual tells me is that Platform 19 is permissive.
How do I know whether the platform is long enough to accommodate the second train?

The maunual doesn't give the lengths of platforms 1, 20 or 21 either.

Does anybody know?

What train numbers are they? these are very long platforms. i have used them.

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Waverley Platform Lengths 23/02/2018 at 14:01 #106095
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Platform 1: 255m
Platform 19: 250m
Platform 20: 295m
Platform 21: 295m

Platform 1 and 19 combined: 565m

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Waverley Platform Lengths 23/02/2018 at 15:43 #106097
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tynie123 in post 106094 said:

What train numbers are they? these are very long platforms. i have used them.
1R10 and 2B03.
The odd thing is, I know that the combined length of these 2 trains is 207m (unless my arithmetic is wrong), therefore, if P19 is 250m long they should fit comfortably. I have now gone back to a previous save and intend to put 2B03 into Platform 1 and deal with the consequences.

It wouldn't have helped me knowing that P19 platform length is 250m, as I would have routed 2B03 in there in any case.

What is causing the overhang I wonder. (See attachment)

Furthermore, would it not be a good idea to edit the Edinburgh manual to show the missing platform lengths?

Nice busy sim by the way. Running it with Waverley, Haymarket and one or two small junctions close by and just about managing with the odd pause to check the whereabouts of trains in the phone calls and also dealing with other events elsewhere in the sim.

Bugsy


Update:

I did what I said I would do, although routed 2B03 into P17 instead of P1 as it is now occupied. I then sent 5A41 into P19 and got a repeat of the problem insofar as now 5A41 straddles the points.
Incidentally. 1R10 is still waiting for joining train 5R10 which was supposed to arrive from Haymarket TMD at 04.25, but hasn't yet materialised.

I know that this is probably a bit boring, but I have attached an earlier save (60.20) so that, if they wish, someone can play it through and see what I am doing wrong.
In the meantime I might just keep diverting trains into different Platform.

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Waverley Platform Lengths 23/02/2018 at 16:13 #106098
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5R10-1 seeded in platform 19 at the start of the simulation. It should have joined 1R10-3 at around 00:23, and departed at 04:25. The length of those trains plus 2B03 is 276m, hence the overhang. For some reason, it seems like the join hasn't completed.
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Waverley Platform Lengths 23/02/2018 at 16:52 #106102
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bugsy in post 106097 said:
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Furthermore, would it not be a good idea to edit the Edinburgh manual to show the missing platform lengths?

My understanding is that the wiki manuals can be expanded by any member, so that sounds well volunteered that person :)

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Waverley Platform Lengths 23/02/2018 at 16:59 #106104
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Steamer in post 106098 said:
5R10-1 seeded in platform 19 at the start of the simulation. It should have joined 1R10-3 at around 00:23, and departed at 04:25. The length of those trains plus 2B03 is 276m, hence the overhang. For some reason, it seems like the join hasn't completed.
Yes, you are correct. The time I gave above was the time that the combined trains were supposed to go toHaymarket TMD.
I have actually restarted the sime to see why I missed the arrival of 5R10, but didn't see it anywhere. Whatsmore, I can't see 5R10 arrival in the Simplifier, unless I've missed it.

Wouldn't the Train List show both 1R10 and 5R10 in platform 19 waiting to join, because it doesn't. Odd.

I'm probably talking jibberish. Don't remember seeing 5R10 being seeded.
I'll start again somewhere before 04.20 and deal with things.

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Waverley Platform Lengths 23/02/2018 at 17:17 #106106
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I think I've found the problem. The timetable you're using is from the original version of Edinburgh, which didn't have the generic seeding feature that most simulations have. However, it did have a set of entry locations used as seed points. The timetable you're using uses those entry points, which the latest version of Edinburgh doesn't support. Is the timetable the one included with the simulation? "Edinburgh August 2006 v3.238.0" works.

Quick solution is to remove 1R10-3, reverse 2B03 into the platform and carry on. However, you may still be missing some trains from the simulation- the seeds include most of the stock for North Berwick services, which never leave the area.

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Waverley Platform Lengths 03/03/2018 at 11:42 #106342
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Steamer in post 106095 said:
Platform 1: 255m
Platform 19: 250m
Platform 20: 295m
Platform 21: 295m

Platform 1 and 19 combined: 565m
For people's information, I have added the above platform lengths to the Edinburgh User Manual in the 'Documents' section on the Website.

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