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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 08:19 #106302
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There should shortly be an update released (4.3.1). Users should be aware that there are a couple of significant changes which have required the timetable to be amended. The problem related to ARS and the way I'd coded the paths which, for some reason, no longer worked as previously.

I just alert you this fact as it will mean existing saved games and timetables will not work out of the box. They should be able to be edited to make them compatible once loaded. The two main changes are to add in specific reversing locations for ECS in Whifflet loops and behind 405 at Motherwell, and a minor change in Dalzell loop.

John (Postal) has kindly amended the 2006 timetables and also made some recasting and added-in the crew change stops. These will be V4.4.1 timetables and will be available through updates.

Note that the analyser does throw up some warnings but, subject to confirmation, we think that they are the result of zealotry on the part of the analyser rather than something that need concern us.

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 09:36 #106303
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To amplify what Peter has said, the 2006 TTs have been revised following lengthy study of the WTTs for the year. The changes of substance are the inclusion of crew changes where the data is shown in the WTT and adjustment of several of the Class 1 TTs to make some stops set-down only in the Simsig TT where they are shown in the WTTs (mainly at Motherwell and Carstairs).

The TTs have had over 100 hours of testing so I am hopeful that the errors have been minimised but it is a manually entered TT so there will still be some typos or errors. Please report them here so that remedial action can be taken.

Finally, as Peter notes the TT analyser is showing 17 warnings. 16 of these refer to crew changes which are booked at the likes of Bellshill and Holytown. Now that the crew changes are an action in the TT the analyser is reporting that it is unsafe to have actions at the relevant locations because they are not set up by the developer as key locations. Peter is aware but the amount of work to change these locations to key locations would be substantial and the warnings make no difference to the operation of the sim/TT. The 17th. warning refers to the morning Pendolino working to Edinburgh to form an Edinburgh - Euston service. This runs as an ECS working from Polmadie to Carstairs (5B11) where it forms 1B11, Carstairs - Edinburgh. There are 2 incarnations of 5B11 in the TT as there are two paths in the WTT depending on whether the set needs to be turned to put the first class at the rear from Carstairs. 5B11-A and 5B11-B both have an action of N 1B11. The analyser takes offence at this and complains that when it gets to 5B11-B, 1B11 has already been used for 5B11-A. Again no impact on the operation of the sim/TT.

Hope you enjoy when the re-release is pushed out.

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 10:05 #106304
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I hope this update sorts out the 2EXX services which turnback at Newton. After the service has left the turnback and sits on the platform 1 at Newton, it wants to go in the wrong direction. All the 2Exx services want to do that and there are a lot of them. I refer to the Motherwell 1984 timetable (set correctly in the 1980 era).
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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 11:31 #106306
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Ray in post 106304 said:
I hope this update sorts out the 2EXX services which turnback at Newton. After the service has left the turnback and sits on the platform 1 at Newton, it wants to go in the wrong direction. All the 2Exx services want to do that and there are a lot of them. I refer to the Motherwell 1984 timetable (set correctly in the 1980 era).
Can you point me in the direction of the report so I can remind myself?

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 12:07 #106307
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Thanks guys.
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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 14:48 #106310
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I hope this update sorts out the 2EXX services which turnback at Newton. After the service has left the turnback and sits on the platform 1 at Newton, it wants to go in the wrong direction. All the 2Exx services want to do that and there are a lot of them. I refer to the Motherwell 1984 timetable (set correctly in the 1980 era).

Can you point me in the direction of the report so I can remind myself?

This could be the report #105284 and the chain of messages after same.

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 20:17 #106320
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Ray in post 106310 said:
I hope this update sorts out the 2EXX services which turnback at Newton. After the service has left the turnback and sits on the platform 1 at Newton, it wants to go in the wrong direction. All the 2Exx services want to do that and there are a lot of them. I refer to the Motherwell 1984 timetable (set correctly in the 1980 era).

Can you point me in the direction of the report so I can remind myself?

This could be the report #105284 and the chain of messages after same.
No, that's to do with trains being misrouted as M138 so I can't see how it relates to this point.

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 20:36 #106323
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Has this update been released yet? Not had anything come through since this post was started..
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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 21:51 #106328
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Peter Bennet in post 106302 said:
There should shortly be an update released (4.3.1).

Aka there is one on its way, but it will be with us when it’s ready

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 22:05 #106331
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A valid point, was been impatient that I didn't read the first post on this... I'll happily wait.
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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 22:06 #106332
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I sent it to Karl last night.

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 23:07 #106335
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Peter Bennet in post 106332 said:
I sent it to Karl last night.

Peter
I've been in Cornwall for most of the last 48 hours. As soon as I have internet better than a piece of string you'll have it.

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V4.3.1 02/03/2018 at 23:07 #106336
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Peter Bennet in post 106332 said:
I sent it to Karl last night.

Peter
I've been in Cornwall for most of the last 48 hours. As soon as I have internet better than a piece of string you'll have it.

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V4.3.1 04/03/2018 at 19:31 #106441
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Press check for updates and it will appear.
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V4.3.1 04/03/2018 at 19:39 #106443
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Thanks again Karl, sorry for been slightly impatience.
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V4.3.1 04/03/2018 at 19:43 #106444
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Just started the 2006 TT up. 1S03 waiting at law junction (For loop), given priority overlap to 6S54 which has just entered at Gretna...

And again with 6S48 and 1S03.

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V4.3.1 04/03/2018 at 20:48 #106457
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Hap in post 106444 said:
Just started the 2006 TT up. 1S03 waiting at law junction (For loop), given priority overlap to 6S54 which has just entered at Gretna...

And again with 6S48 and 1S03.
Lots of ARS issues which have been reported and await resolution. Afraid you'll just have to work round them.

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V4.3.1 05/03/2018 at 11:17 #106476
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No worries, I thought this update was to fix that, hence reporting them again. :-) back to good old fashioned signalling...and a reinforced scroller on the mouse. Ha!
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V4.3.1 05/03/2018 at 11:46 #106477
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Hap in post 106476 said:
and a reinforced scroller on the mouse. Ha!
Although it is a personal preference I find Hot Keys preferable to scrolling and Motherwell has Alpha & Numeric ones.

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V4.3.1 05/03/2018 at 13:00 #106479
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Andrew G in post 106477 said:
Hap in post 106476 said:
and a reinforced scroller on the mouse. Ha!
Although it is a personal preference I find Hot Keys preferable to scrolling and Motherwell has Alpha & Numeric ones.
It’s just pure habit Andy. Though I am going to attempt to break it.

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V4.3.1 05/03/2018 at 13:47 #106482
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Andrew G in post 106477 said:
Hap in post 106476 said:
and a reinforced scroller on the mouse. Ha!
Although it is a personal preference I find Hot Keys preferable to scrolling and Motherwell has Alpha & Numeric ones.
Might just be my system, but I can't be doing with the hot keys. The Motherwell diagram is taller than my screen so I run things with the main view manually maximised and scrolled down a few pixels so I can see what I need at the bottom of the screen. If I use a hot key I jump to the right place laterally but it scrolls the screen back to the top and I then have to scroll back down to get the screen in the right position for my needs. Drives me round the bend so I never use the hot keys.

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V4.3.1 06/03/2018 at 01:03 #106492
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John, you need a 27 inch monitor. It fits the sims perfectly. No scrolling up & down.

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V4.3.1 06/03/2018 at 09:54 #106493
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The physical size of a monitor does not correspond to a certain number of pixels (though there is presumably a correlation).

Also, I doubt that most people aren't inclined to spend at least £100 just because Motherwell is a bit too tall!

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V4.3.1 06/03/2018 at 16:38 #106501
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I got two 22" TV's and planning on adding a 3rd next month The only sims I need to scroll up and down on ever so slightly is New Street and Marylebone.
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V4.3.1 07/03/2018 at 13:08 #106529
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Danny252 in post 106493 said:
The physical size of a monitor does not correspond to a certain number of pixels (though there is presumably a correlation).

Also, I doubt that most people aren't inclined to spend at least £100 just because Motherwell is a bit too tall!
I find very-few people will spend that much merely for 1 simulation unless they're hardcore simulation players.

That being said - I bought my 2 24" monitors purely for Simsig!

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