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V4.3.1 07/03/2018 at 19:38 #106538
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... And I bought a third monitor with USB video adapter so as I can, using new view and patching one area to another down the AB lines, get most sims completely on the three screens

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V4.3.1 08/03/2018 at 20:44 #106555
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Have run into a minor Access Violation whilst playing this sim: Game still playable.

Internal exception in MajorCycle stage SIG (EAccessViolation: Access violation at address 00404296 in module 'SimSigLoader.exe'. Read of address F685D88B)

Mantis referral: #19893.

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V4.3.1 09/03/2018 at 17:00 #106561
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Much improved TT, many thanks.

There's still a snag at M423 however in that some of the "mainline" (ie long!!) trains will pass it on a yellow and stop in the platform, whereas others just sit at it with a red aspect. It does not appear to affect non - stop workings.

I've tried changing the stopping point, but this has had limited success.

Could it be something to do with approach control??
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V4.3.1 09/03/2018 at 18:49 #106562
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nnr in post 106561 said:
Much improved TT, many thanks.

There's still a snag at M423 however in that some of the "mainline" (ie long!!) trains will pass it on a yellow and stop in the platform, whereas others just sit at it with a red aspect. It does not appear to affect non - stop workings.

I've tried changing the stopping point, but this has had limited success.

Could it be something to do with approach control??
Cheers
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It is prototypical. I raised this a few weeks ago with Henry Munro who signalled at Motherwell for a lot of years and he confirmed the situation. The interlocking keeps track of the train length from the number of track circuits occupied as the train approaches Motherwell. M423 is held at R for trains over a certain length until M399 is showing a proceed aspect. As things are set up in the sim, pendolinos and voyagers are within the length parameter so M423 will clear but the ECML IC225 sets (and one train of empty coal hoppers which has a crew change in P2) are overlength and held at M423 until M399 is cleared.

That does mean you have to be careful with the empty hoppers (4S34) as there is no point in signalling the train into P2 until you know that the relief crew is going to be there. If you clear M399 to let the train into P2 before the relief crew is available you risk locking up the station while you wait for the relief crew.

"It is a most mortifying reflection for a man to consider what he has done, compared to what he might have done." - Samuel Johnson, English author, 18/09/1709 - 13/12/1784
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V4.3.1 09/03/2018 at 20:17 #106564
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Ah, mystery solved. Many thanks for your help.
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Motherwell V4.3.1 14/03/2018 at 10:04 #106755
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Running Motherwell's 2006 timetable using latest Loader V4.6.12 train 1S26 at Carstairs at 06:16 finished joining and consequently created 4 error messages: "Bad type for CurrentTrain evaluating" SMC413 PDA twice and Bad type for 413AM PDA twice.

Referred it to Mantis # 0018542

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Motherwell V4.3.1 23/03/2018 at 14:16 #106961
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I'm running V4.3.1 using loader 4.6.12 and TT v4.2.3 0445 start.
I'm finding trains exiting the sim toward Shotts won't pass M626. If instructed manually they cease to be ARS and now won't leave the sim after being authorised to pass signals at danger toward Shotts. Eventually they come up as "No further trips".
Suggestions, please!

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Motherwell V4.3.1 23/03/2018 at 15:10 #106963
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John 23 in post 106961 said:
I'm running V4.3.1 using loader 4.6.12 and TT v4.2.3 0445 start.
I'm finding trains exiting the sim toward Shotts won't pass M626. If instructed manually they cease to be ARS and now won't leave the sim after being authorised to pass signals at danger toward Shotts. Eventually they come up as "No further trips".
Suggestions, please!
You need timetable 4.4.1, which should come from the updates.

Peter

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Motherwell V4.3.1 23/03/2018 at 16:14 #106964
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Strange: I'm fully updated and I'm not being offered that TT via the Loader.
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Motherwell V4.3.1 23/03/2018 at 16:52 #106965
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Check the timetable folder and see what's there.
The timetable no longer has a version number in the title and should be "last modified" on 1 March.

If you delete the earlier ones then you should be re-offered the updates.

Peter

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Motherwell V4.3.1 23/03/2018 at 17:07 #106966
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That seems to have got it sorted.
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Motherwell V4.3.1 23/03/2018 at 19:07 #106971
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I have not yet looked at the 1984 timetable in respect of this update.
If anyone is having a go then please point me to any fixes needed.

The ARS is known about and not fixable, causes trouble with the loco run round at Holytown.

The 2E at Newton is news to me. I do not recall any problems with them. Will look when time allows.
This may also kick the 1993 timetable into action.

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Motherwell V4.3.1 26/04/2018 at 00:50 #107700
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Have checked a 1984 timetable with the new sim data. The usual problem areas seem OK, so I conclude that v2 is still OK.
I did not find any problems with 2E services at Newton.
Sleepers at Mossend behave OK
ARS gets confused by the run round at Holytown

Note that there are earlier versions of the 1984 timetables that WILL NOT be OK.

Updates attached, also available in the downloads. As user timetables these DO NOT come though the update process.

Bill

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Motherwell V4.3.1 26/04/2018 at 09:44 #107701
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bill_gensheet in post 107700 said:
Have checked a 1984 timetable with the new sim data. The usual problem areas seem OK, so I conclude that v2 is still OK.
I did not find any problems with 2E services at Newton.
Sleepers at Mossend behave OK
ARS gets confused by the run round at Holytown

Note that there are earlier versions of the 1984 timetables that WILL NOT be OK.

Updates attached, also available in the downloads. As user timetables these DO NOT come though the update process.

Bill
File naming seems to fall foul of Geoff's desired position in this thread.

"It is a most mortifying reflection for a man to consider what he has done, compared to what he might have done." - Samuel Johnson, English author, 18/09/1709 - 13/12/1784
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Motherwell V4.3.1 28/04/2018 at 00:18 #107723
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>>
File naming seems to fall foul of Geoff's desired position in this thread.
<<

It is a user timetable so is not being distributed via updater. That is where the problem of having version numbers comes from as it prevents the updater updating.
Therefore those getting it manually do need to know the version from the filename.

I am avoiding decimals in the name, the problem noted in that thread.


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