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| Tamper train length? 30/08/2018 at 22:50 #111658 | |
Joe S
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Hi all, I'm just getting into writing one of my first timetables (for the West Anglia sim) and there are a couple of tamper trains running about in the early hours. However, try as I might, I've not been able to find what they consist of and thus their lengths. Would anyone have any generic length for them that is about right? Likewise with speed - they appeared to move quite slowly to the worksite... All the best, Joe Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 30/08/2018 at 23:08 #111663 | |
58050
2650 posts |
If you download the 'Length Calculator' you'll find a tab on that lsberlled Track Machines which has a few different tampers & other track machines listed.
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| Tamper train length? 30/08/2018 at 23:31 #111666 | |
SamTDS
153 posts |
For the speed of tampers, I have found specifications on the tampers that Network Rail use here https://www.volkerrail.co.uk/en/plant/otm-sc-tamper Unfortunately this does not include length but judging by the images i estimate it to be about 2 train cars in length. SamTDS - STDS | My comments are my opinions and interpretations and do not reflect on the wonderfull SimSig team. I am in no way part of the team. Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 30/08/2018 at 23:49 #111670 | |
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Noisynoel
989 posts |
What headcodes are they? I will be able to look up which machines they are as each individual tamper/stone blower etc always keeps the same headcode. once I know which machine it is i can get you length and max speed (Which only applies outside of engineering possessions)
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| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 12:20 #111684 | |
HST125Scorton
1133 posts |
I use a default 20m at 60mph for Tamper/Track Machine movements in my timetables. Most of the workings seen around Carlisle/Preston end are 6T4*, 6J**, 6U**.
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| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 15:17 #111689 | |
KymriskaDraken
963 posts |
58050 in post 111663 said:If you download the 'Length Calculator' you'll find a tab on that lsberlled Track Machines which has a few different tampers & other track machines listed.I thought you'd be able to give the lengths to the millimeter from your stock books! Kev Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 15:17 #111690 | |
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Joe S
128 posts |
Noisynoel in post 111670 said:What headcodes are they? I will be able to look up which machines they are as each individual tamper/stone blower etc always keeps the same headcode. once I know which machine it is i can get you length and max speed (Which only applies outside of engineering possessions)Thanks - they are 6J45 and 6U36 on 26th Aug. Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 19:24 #111705 | |
Ar88
310 posts |
SamTDS in post 111666 said:For the speed of tampers, I have found specifications on the tampers that Network Rail use here https://www.volkerrail.co.uk/en/plant/otm-sc-tamperA tamper is a shorter length than a 2-car pacer. The Welsh contingent. Aron, or Ar to mates. Also known as 88E or ThatManCalledAr. Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 19:55 #111707 | |
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58050
2650 posts |
KymriskaDraken in post 111689 said:58050 in post 111663 said:If you download the 'Length Calculator' you'll find a tab on that lsberlled Track Machines which has a few different tampers & other track machines listed.I thought you'd be able to give the lengths to the millimeter from your stock books! I could do that Kev, but it depends on the era his timetable is for. My stock books are the BR CM&EE books & some of those tampers/track machines no longer run on todays railway. Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 20:06 #111708 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
2023 posts |
Are you sure they all are? Some of the bigger OTMs are long. Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 21:05 #111713 | |
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Noisynoel
989 posts |
Joe S in post 111690 said:Noisynoel in post 111670 said:6J45 is machine DR73911 a Colas Rail Switch & Crossing Tamper. It is 18m long and it has a max speed of 50mph.What headcodes are they? I will be able to look up which machines they are as each individual tamper/stone blower etc always keeps the same headcode. once I know which machine it is i can get you length and max speed (Which only applies outside of engineering possessions)Thanks - they are 6J45 and 6U36 on 26th Aug. 6U36 is machine DR80216 a Harsco stoneblower owned by Network rail. it is 32m long and has a max speed of 60mph. Please note that inside possessions and worksites they DO NOT travel at their maximum speed. Noel Noisynoel Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 31/08/2018 at 21:21 #111718 | |
headshot119
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Noisynoel in post 111713 said:Joe S in post 111690 said:25mph when entering, leaving, or making a movement within a possesion.Noisynoel in post 111670 said:6J45 is machine DR73911 a Colas Rail Switch & Crossing Tamper. It is 18m long and it has a max speed of 50mph.What headcodes are they? I will be able to look up which machines they are as each individual tamper/stone blower etc always keeps the same headcode. once I know which machine it is i can get you length and max speed (Which only applies outside of engineering possessions)Thanks - they are 6J45 and 6U36 on 26th Aug. 5mph maximum in a worksite, unless the ES (Engineering Supervisor) gives authority, then see above. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Tamper train length? 01/09/2018 at 07:33 #111727 | |
Giantray
330 posts |
headshot119 in post 111718 said:Noisynoel in post 111713 said:Here are the Rule Book Entries:[quote=Joe S;post=111690][quote=Noisynoel;25mph when entering, leaving, or making a movement within a possesion. RSSB Hand for ES (Engineering Supervisor) or SWLs(Safe Work leader) in Possessions states, "After you have given specific instructions to the driver or machine controller, you may allow movements to run at caution above 5 mph (10 km/h). You must tell the driver or MC that the movement must be made at no greater speed than 5 mph (10 km/h) through the site of work if you have agreed this with an IWA or COSS. If you have agreed that the COSS will use lookout warning during darkness or where the site of work is in or near a tunnel, you must instruct the driver or MC that the movement must be made at no greater speed than 20 mph (30 km/h) through the site of work." RSSB Rule Book Module T3, Section 9.6 states, "9.6 During the movement a) Making the movement You must: • make the movement at caution • not exceed 25 mph (40 km/h) at any point in the journey when entering, making a movement within, or leaving the possession • make any movement in a work site at no greater than 5 mph (10 km/h) unless you are given specific instructions by the ES or SWL • be prepared to stop before reaching a handsignal that is being displayed." Retired Professional Railwayman (1981-2023); Pway & S&T (1981-88); Former Signalman/Signaller/ Signalling Trainer (1989-2023) [AB, TCB, Mechanical, NX, WestCad, Hitachi SARS]; Railway Historian (esp.SER, LCDR); Member of The Permanent Way Institution.. Last edited: 01/09/2018 at 07:35 by Giantray Reason: None given Log in to reply |