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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 02:10 #115006
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Does anybody has the same problem with me? There are no signal post displayed on every sim on my computer. It get to be quite confusing which signal point to what direction without the signal post displayed. Have already tried to tweak the setting on F3 menu, but none fixed the problem.
I'm running on Windows 10.


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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 02:42 #115007
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Oh that is odd, you also appear to be missing the arrows used for exit buttons and lines used for rendering tunnels and boxes.

As a first step, check that both SimSig.fon and SimSigv2.fon are present in the directory C:\Windows\Fonts. If either is missing, try reinstalling SimSig.

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 03:04 #115008
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Edgemaster in post 115007 said:
Oh that is odd, you also appear to be missing the arrows used for exit buttons and lines used for rendering tunnels and boxes.

As a first step, check that both SimSig.fon and SimSigv2.fon are present in the directory C:\Windows\Fonts. If either is missing, try reinstalling SimSig.
I've checked my font folder and yes both fonts are missing. I have also reinstalled Simsig, but the problem still exist.
Is there a possibility to obtain the fonts and install it manually?

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 03:18 #115009
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On the attched picture is what the fonts maybe listed as under windows, the default for windows now seems not to display the .fon file but the fonts that each .fon can display

As you are able to start the loader and load a sim it seems unlikely that the fonts are missing, as if SimSigv2.fon is missing the loader won't start (as discussced here).


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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 03:34 #115010
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MarkC in post 115009 said:
On the attched picture is what the fonts maybe listed as under windows, the default for windows now seems not to display the .fon file but the fonts that each .fon can display

As you are able to start the loader and load a sim it seems unlikely that the fonts are missing, as if SimSigv2.fon is missing the loader won't start (as discussced here).


I went to the link and downloaded the font manually and installing it. Still the problem existed. Missing font is now out of the question.

Also tried reinstalling SimSig with antivirus/windows defender turned off as suggested by the thread. However, still missing the signal post.

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 03:51 #115011
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adlian in post 115010 said:
MarkC in post 115009 said:
On the attched picture is what the fonts maybe listed as under windows, the default for windows now seems not to display the .fon file but the fonts that each .fon can display

As you are able to start the loader and load a sim it seems unlikely that the fonts are missing, as if SimSigv2.fon is missing the loader won't start (as discussced here).


I went to the link and downloaded the font manually and installing it. Still the problem existed. Missing font is now out of the question.

Also tried reinstalling SimSig with antivirus/windows defender turned off as suggested by the thread. However, still missing the signal post.
If you went into the fonts folder and those 5 fonts highlighted are there, then the fonts were never missing and also you had been able to start a sim on the loader so that would indicate that at least SimSigv2.fon was there.

What version of the loader are you using, what version of windows are you on as well, (if windows 10 can you please state version) and is it just the brighton sim that is having this issue.

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 04:37 #115012
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MarkC in post 115011 said:
adlian in post 115010 said:
MarkC in post 115009 said:
On the attched picture is what the fonts maybe listed as under windows, the default for windows now seems not to display the .fon file but the fonts that each .fon can display

As you are able to start the loader and load a sim it seems unlikely that the fonts are missing, as if SimSigv2.fon is missing the loader won't start (as discussced here).


I went to the link and downloaded the font manually and installing it. Still the problem existed. Missing font is now out of the question.

Also tried reinstalling SimSig with antivirus/windows defender turned off as suggested by the thread. However, still missing the signal post.
If you went into the fonts folder and those 5 fonts highlighted are there, then the fonts were never missing and also you had been able to start a sim on the loader so that would indicate that at least SimSigv2.fon was there.

What version of the loader are you using, what version of windows are you on as well, (if windows 10 can you please state version) and is it just the brighton sim that is having this issue.
My Loader is v4.9
My Win 10 is version 1803
And it is happening to all sim, not only Brighton

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 04:57 #115014
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And I just realized something, the Telephone icon and Incident Report icon is also missing and I've been missing phone call because of that
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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 05:03 #115015
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Have you gone to the Font folder and confirmed the fonts are there as highlighted in the picture I attached above
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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 06:55 #115016
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MarkC in post 115015 said:
Have you gone to the Font folder and confirmed the fonts are there as highlighted in the picture I attached above
They are there but somehow have different names. Your font has "Regular" on them, while my font has "Standard" on them. For ex "SIMSIGv2 Standard" instead of "SIMSIGv2 Regular". Does it have something to do with it?

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 10:08 #115017
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adlian in post 115016 said:
MarkC in post 115015 said:
Have you gone to the Font folder and confirmed the fonts are there as highlighted in the picture I attached above
They are there but somehow have different names. Your font has "Regular" on them, while my font has "Standard" on them. For ex "SIMSIGv2 Standard" instead of "SIMSIGv2 Regular". Does it have something to do with it?
All the fonts in my folder have the "Standard" name but I am seeing all of the graphics as expected.

To check whether it is something specific to your hardware or software, can you post a saved game so that someone else can load it and see if it renders correctly. That might help to start narrowing down the problem.

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 12:23 #115019
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adlian in post 115016 said:
MarkC in post 115015 said:
Have you gone to the Font folder and confirmed the fonts are there as highlighted in the picture I attached above
They are there but somehow have different names. Your font has "Regular" on them, while my font has "Standard" on them. For ex "SIMSIGv2 Standard" instead of "SIMSIGv2 Regular". Does it have something to do with it?
I would say that difference would be down to the version of windows being used.

Hopefully a Dev would be able to advise/help further

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 12:58 #115020
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postal in post 115017 said:

To check whether it is something specific to your hardware or software, can you post a saved game so that someone else can load it and see if it renders correctly. That might help to start narrowing down the problem.
There is *NOTHING* in a saved game that could cause the telephone or incident icons to disappear. This is almost certainly something like a corrupted font.

(If someone wants to try a saved game on another machine, that's fine, but I will be amazed if it goes wrong on the other machine.)

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 13:14 #115022
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I've looked at the .fon files, and Regular is not the name but the font style: not bold or italic. I guess the Windows font viewer is just causing confusion here.
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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 13:25 #115023
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Run the "charmap" utility (enter that into the search box in the start menu) and select SIMSIGv2 in the font box. The stem characters should be obvious (charmap uses hex, so they are 0x80, 0x81, 0x82, and 0x83). If there are lots of gaps, please post an image here.
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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 13:43 #115024
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Can you also confirm, your language, and region settings?

Control Panel > Clock, Language and Region > Language
Control Panel > Clock, Language and Region > Region

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Missing Signal Post on Display 24/01/2019 at 13:43 #115025
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I've just spotted something and I'm going to make a prediction. If adlian runs Peterborough and looks at Biggleswade sidings, he'll see the points next to "G.F.'A'" are missing. But at Sandy the siding points are shown as straight (just like on his Brighton screenshot). The B-to-B link at the left end of Peterborough station will be missing while the signal box symbol at the right end of Peterborough station will have a panel with no box around it. The three green boundary lines and the boxes around the signaller berths should also be missing.

If so, something is causing his system to not display characters with the top bit set. I have no idea what.

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Missing Signal Post on Display 27/01/2019 at 03:36 #115092
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Hi everybody, I've finally found what the problem is.

I ran the 'charmap' and found that the 0x80 character and beyond are blank. So I checked on the internet and found that the one causing it was the "Beta: Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support" was checked. Deactivate it, and the problem is solved.

Thank you for all your support


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Missing Signal Post on Display 27/01/2019 at 04:20 #115093
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adlian in post 115092 said:
Hi everybody, I've finally found what the problem is.

I ran the 'charmap' and found that the 0x80 character and beyond are blank. So I checked on the internet and found that the one causing it was the "Beta: Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support" was checked. Deactivate it, and the problem is solved.

Thank you for all your support

Thanks for explaining both the problem and the solution - I'm sure it'll crop up again sometime, so it's useful to have the feedback. Clive was right then

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Missing Signal Post on Display 27/01/2019 at 21:53 #115133
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adlian in post 115092 said:

I ran the 'charmap' and found that the 0x80 character and beyond are blank. So I checked on the internet and found that the one causing it was the "Beta: Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support" was checked. Deactivate it, and the problem is solved.
Thanks for finding that. I've found a little bit more information here, but I don't know what we'll have to do to immunize the Loader against it.

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