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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough

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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough 19/02/2019 at 08:55 #115859
ajax103
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I've got the August 2012 timetable in my collection and am trying to do a chain on my laptop to get the two sims together using the timetable mentioned.

Now the first issue I had was that while it appeared for Kings Cross with all the other timetables, it wouldn't show up for Peterborough.

So what I did was open up Peterborough with no timetable then load the 2012 one and save it as a separate timetable, all good...

However while Kings Cross seems to be connected to Peterborough, it has again brought up a error which I don't understand which shows up on the Kings Cross built in message tool as "chaining arrangements inconsistent" and on the Peterborough sim it has a pop up error message as "Kings Cross Chaining Arrangements Inconsistent".

I'm using Peterborough with the Bi Di active between Peterborough and Werrington Junction with the Modern Era for Kings Cross so can't see why there is a problem?

I have also tried chaining the two using the old eras in both and the same error comes up so for now, it's impossible to have any session with the two chained up - does anyone know why there's a issue?

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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough 19/02/2019 at 10:25 #115863
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Reported on Mantis 023582. As many people have hosted this chain over the years I suspect it works on the whole so why not give it a go?
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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough 19/02/2019 at 10:30 #115864
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I've hosted these two before (on a different timetable, I think), received the chaining details inconsistent warnings, clicked through them all, and it seemed to work fine.
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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough 19/02/2019 at 10:37 #115865
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It's the first I've ever seen any sim state that hence why I asked, didn't know it had been raised on Mantis
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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough 19/02/2019 at 11:54 #115866
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ajax103 in post 115865 said:
It's the first I've ever seen any sim state that hence why I asked, didn't know it had been raised on Mantis :(
No, headshot119 was saying that he'd just raised the issue on mantis, in response to your post.

It does seem to have been reported on the forums before here, and it was reported that:
headshot119 in post 96132 said:
The two chain and pass trains and TDs correctly between them.

I asked for version numbering as I wanted to check it against the versions I have. An updated version of Kings Cross is undergoing testing which solves the errors on start up.
The versions reported on that thread were King's Cross: 3.4 and Peterborough: 4.1 build 3.
Current versions are King's Cross: 3.4 and Peterborough: 4.1 build 4.

Did the planned King's Cross update stall?

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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough 19/02/2019 at 12:57 #115867
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Let me summarize the situation (as the author of Peterborough). Firstly, this messages indicates that the two sims disagree on exactly what happens when during chaining. This could mean that chaining is completely broken or it could mean there's a minor cosmetic issue. (The core code isn't clever enough to know which.)

In this case, it was supposed to be fixed in the next release. I tested this issue in 2017 against the latest development builds of King's Cross and Peterborough and it had gone away. The current Peterborough release is based on that data but, it seems, the current King's Cross is older. Once KX is re-released the problem will go away.

As others have said, I think you'll find the chain will work in that trains pass across correctly, even if things don't always look quite right.

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Issue chaining Kings Cross and Peterborough 19/02/2019 at 15:17 #115868
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clive in post 115867 said:
Let me summarize the situation (as the author of Peterborough). Firstly, this messages indicates that the two sims disagree on exactly what happens when during chaining. This could mean that chaining is completely broken or it could mean there's a minor cosmetic issue. (The core code isn't clever enough to know which.)

In this case, it was supposed to be fixed in the next release. I tested this issue in 2017 against the latest development builds of King's Cross and Peterborough and it had gone away. The current Peterborough release is based on that data but, it seems, the current King's Cross is older. Once KX is re-released the problem will go away.

As others have said, I think you'll find the chain will work in that trains pass across correctly, even if things don't always look quite right.
I don't suppose there's any news on when Kings Cross will be re-released or what changes are being planned for it?

Personally the one change I hope is coming is a crossover at Hertford to allow Down Hertford to Platform 1 moves without needing to shunt.

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