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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 10/12/2019 at 20:46 #122205
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First of all, I must say just how much I enjoyed playing the summer 1992 timetable. In fact I enjoyed it so much that I'm working my way through a second game :)
Anyway, now to my question. I've nearly managed to instigate a Mexican standoff but there are several ways that I can avoid it, one of which would be to change a train's timetable. Would doing this incurr penalty points?

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 10/12/2019 at 21:45 #122208
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I wouldn't think so as it is the main timetable you're editing, not the saved situation. Meaning that it would be a part of the timetable and not the current game.
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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 10/12/2019 at 21:58 #122209
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Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 10/12/2019 at 22:14 #122210
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GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
That's ok then. However, I have a very puffed out diver because he had to run from one end of a train to the other in double quick time so that I could get his train out of the way :)

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 13:53 #122214
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bugsy in post 122210 said:
GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
That's ok then. However, I have a very puffed out diver because he had to run from one end of a train to the other in double quick time so that I could get his train out of the way :)

Thanks
My favourite trick when wanting to replace a signal to danger in front of a train is to reverse its direction, cancel the route, and then reverse the train again. I'm going to hell, aren't I?

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 13:56 #122215
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lazzer in post 122214 said:
bugsy in post 122210 said:
GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
That's ok then. However, I have a very puffed out diver because he had to run from one end of a train to the other in double quick time so that I could get his train out of the way :)

Thanks
My favourite trick when wanting to replace a signal to danger in front of a train is to reverse its direction, cancel the route, and then reverse the train again. I'm going to hell, aren't I?
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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 14:49 #122221
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lazzer in post 122214 said:
bugsy in post 122210 said:
GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
That's ok then. However, I have a very puffed out diver because he had to run from one end of a train to the other in double quick time so that I could get his train out of the way :)

Thanks
My favourite trick when wanting to replace a signal to danger in front of a train is to reverse its direction, cancel the route, and then reverse the train again. I'm going to hell, aren't I?
No just incurring a massive time penalty while he changes ends twice. It isn't instantaneous anymore.

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 17:19 #122224
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GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
What is the 'correct' way of changing a timetable; say to work around the failed train, in this instance an operational need to keep the service going, especially if the failure is predicted to be a lengthy one.

For example on my Sheffield save I'm currently on, there is a train failed / stopped at Swinton, so all Doncaster services are going via Thrybergh. The go non-stop option appears to have no affect and trains call wrong route at Aldwarke.

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 17:50 #122226
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Banners88 in post 122224 said:
GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
What is the 'correct' way of changing a timetable; say to work around the failed train, in this instance an operational need to keep the service going, especially if the failure is predicted to be a lengthy one.

For example on my Sheffield save I'm currently on, there is a train failed / stopped at Swinton, so all Doncaster services are going via Thrybergh. The go non-stop option appears to have no affect and trains call wrong route at Aldwarke.
Easiest way is to tell the train to Abandon Timetable. For realism you could wait for the train to call in at the signal where he is going to go "the wrong way" (at Danger of course), pretend you are telling him about the diversion, abandon the timetable in F2 and pull off. You can reinstate the timetable when the train is back on its booked route.

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 18:05 #122227
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jc92 in post 122221 said:
lazzer in post 122214 said:
bugsy in post 122210 said:
GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
That's ok then. However, I have a very puffed out diver because he had to run from one end of a train to the other in double quick time so that I could get his train out of the way :)

Thanks
My favourite trick when wanting to replace a signal to danger in front of a train is to reverse its direction, cancel the route, and then reverse the train again. I'm going to hell, aren't I?
No just incurring a massive time penalty while he changes ends twice. It isn't instantaneous anymore.
Depends which sim I'm playing.

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 18:33 #122230
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KymriskaDraken in post 122226 said:
Banners88 in post 122224 said:
GeoffM in post 122209 said:
Editing a timetable, whether before a train enters, or via F2 and editing a live train, does not affect scoring. People have used that to their advantage to prevent penalisation (ok, to cheat) but that's on their conscience.
What is the 'correct' way of changing a timetable; say to work around the failed train, in this instance an operational need to keep the service going, especially if the failure is predicted to be a lengthy one.

For example on my Sheffield save I'm currently on, there is a train failed / stopped at Swinton, so all Doncaster services are going via Thrybergh. The go non-stop option appears to have no affect and trains call wrong route at Aldwarke.
Easiest way is to tell the train to Abandon Timetable. For realism you could wait for the train to call in at the signal where he is going to go "the wrong way" (at Danger of course), pretend you are telling him about the diversion, abandon the timetable in F2 and pull off. You can reinstate the timetable when the train is back on its booked route.

Kev
Telling the driver to skip the Swinton call when they phone wrong route should be enough to allow it to continue via Thybergh.

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 18:57 #122233
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That'll go down as a wrong route pulled though?

Was wondering if there was something in the train list option or just a case of deleting it from the train calling list?

There seems to be no function for the 'go non-stop through next station' option?

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 20:22 #122236
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Banners88 in post 122233 said:
That'll go down as a wrong route pulled though?

Was wondering if there was something in the train list option or just a case of deleting it from the train calling list?

There seems to be no function for the 'go non-stop through next station' option?
"Go non-stop through next station" will only work if the train goes through the station.

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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 20:57 #122237
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Setting the train's next timetable location to the first location after the diversion, where the train rejoins its booked route, might also possibly work.
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Does changing a train's timetable incurr a penalty? 11/12/2019 at 22:48 #122238
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Banners88 in post 122233 said:
That'll go down as a wrong route pulled though?

Was wondering if there was something in the train list option or just a case of deleting it from the train calling list?

There seems to be no function for the 'go non-stop through next station' option?
F2 window, right click on a train, Timetable Options, Go non-stop.

But this is for going through the station non-stop - it will still look for it, but won't stop there when it reaches it. As others have said, selecting the train's next location in the same menu should do it.

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