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Entering Westgate Siding 03/04/2020 at 12:58 #125336
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Afternoon,

Whilst drawing up a timetable, I'm trying to reverse a train at Holmes Jn into Westgate Siding (the spur into Booths scrapyard). I can't seem to find anything other than Holmes Jn as an option, no Westgate Siding? I notice it appears as an entry location, but I can't seem to send anything into it.

Am I missing something, or is the ability to reverse at Holmes Jn into the siding not available on the sim at the moment?

Cheers

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Entering Westgate Siding 05/04/2020 at 07:45 #125388
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tc_37372 in post 125336 said:
Afternoon,

Whilst drawing up a timetable, I'm trying to reverse a train at Holmes Jn into Westgate Siding (the spur into Booths scrapyard). I can't seem to find anything other than Holmes Jn as an option, no Westgate Siding? I notice it appears as an entry location, but I can't seem to send anything into it.

Am I missing something, or is the ability to reverse at Holmes Jn into the siding not available on the sim at the moment?

Cheers
Your assumption is correct.

Timetabling trains on the Up Main or (UP BARNSLEY) to Westgate Sidings, you need to table them to Attercliffe Sdgs, reverse, then table to Westgate. Locations required are MEADOWHALL P1-3, Wincobank Jn, and BRIGHTSIDE JN.

Have fun!

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Last edited: 05/04/2020 at 07:49 by BarryM
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Entering Westgate Siding 05/04/2020 at 09:46 #125390
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BarryM in post 125388 said:
tc_37372 in post 125336 said:
Afternoon,

Whilst drawing up a timetable, I'm trying to reverse a train at Holmes Jn into Westgate Siding (the spur into Booths scrapyard). I can't seem to find anything other than Holmes Jn as an option, no Westgate Siding? I notice it appears as an entry location, but I can't seem to send anything into it.

Am I missing something, or is the ability to reverse at Holmes Jn into the siding not available on the sim at the moment?

Cheers
Your assumption is correct.

Timetabling trains on the Up Main or (UP BARNSLEY) to Westgate Sidings, you need to table them to Attercliffe Sdgs, reverse, then table to Westgate. Locations required are MEADOWHALL P1-3, Wincobank Jn, and BRIGHTSIDE JN.

Have fun!
Sorry but that's wrong Barry. Trains can reverse at Holmes junction to drop into Westgate siding. They don't have to run to Brightside/attercliffe at all. There's a LOS on the down main at holmes specifically for the movement.

Mantis 0029947 on mantis to request a location for S213.

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Last edited: 05/04/2020 at 09:53 by jc92
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Entering Westgate Siding 05/04/2020 at 12:42 #125396
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jc92 in post 125390 said:
BarryM in post 125388 said:
tc_37372 in post 125336 said:
Afternoon,

Whilst drawing up a timetable, I'm trying to reverse a train at Holmes Jn into Westgate Siding (the spur into Booths scrapyard). I can't seem to find anything other than Holmes Jn as an option, no Westgate Siding? I notice it appears as an entry location, but I can't seem to send anything into it.

Am I missing something, or is the ability to reverse at Holmes Jn into the siding not available on the sim at the moment?

Cheers
Your assumption is correct.

Timetabling trains on the Up Main or (UP BARNSLEY) to Westgate Sidings, you need to table them to Attercliffe Sdgs, reverse, then table to Westgate. Locations required are MEADOWHALL P1-3, Wincobank Jn, and BRIGHTSIDE JN.

Have fun!
Sorry but that's wrong Barry. Trains can reverse at Holmes junction to drop into Westgate siding. They don't have to run to Brightside/attercliffe at all. There's a LOS on the down main at holmes specifically for the movement.

Mantis 0029947 on mantis to request a location for S213.
Jc92: Give me a break! Read the gentleman's question! He is writing a timetable using the current available locations. The LOS is currently not available!

Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Entering Westgate Siding 05/04/2020 at 13:02 #125397
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tc_37372 in post 125336 said:
I can't seem to find anything other than Holmes Jn as an option, no Westgate Siding? I notice it appears as an entry location, but I can't seem to send anything into it.
There's a TT location for Westgate Siding- it's simply 'Westgate Siding'. There's a valid path into it from the Meadowhall direction, but as discussed above a TT location to reverse at Holmes Jn isn't available at present.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Entering Westgate Siding 07/04/2020 at 16:13 #125466
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Thanks guys.
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Entering Westgate Siding 28/06/2020 at 10:57 #128375
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Morning All
"Booths" as I know it raises its head again. I have two trains going into Booths. In Sheffield v1.4 S1070/213 is given as a reversing point at Holmes Jn. You can set the route into the siding from 213 (DM) or from 1069 (UM). When you try and validate you have to show Meadowhall in the Timetable to make it validate.
Holmes 1070/213 is now a location point but does not seem to validate into Booths.

1. If you are travelling in the up direction you would rev behind 1069 to drop in the sisdings.
2. I have not known trains cross over from the up to rev using 1070/213

By putting Meadowhall in the schedule as attachment will the train stop and rev at 213 or 1069 or will it continue to Meadowhall (will need Platform 2). I do not want to go to Meadowhell at the best of times.

Any help /advice would be gratefully received






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Entering Westgate Siding 28/06/2020 at 11:35 #128383
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Mantis 026679 states resolved but trouble validaing as above
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Entering Westgate Siding 28/06/2020 at 11:45 #128387
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The reverse location isn't usable for trains on the mainline at present.

I've re-opened JC92's Mantis 29947.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Entering Westgate Siding 28/06/2020 at 12:16 #128390
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Steamer in post 128387 said:
The reverse location isn't usable for trains on the mainline at present.

I've re-opened JC92's Mantis 29947.
Thanks Steamer
1069 is the usual rev point. as trains are coming from Rotherham C / Aldwarke Jn (Up dir) . Trains from the Sheffield dir especially loco hauled have to to Kilnhurst or even Doncaster to Run round come back and rev in so the locomotive does not get trapped in........and scapped.

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Entering Westgate Siding 28/06/2020 at 17:27 #128426
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Chrisrail in post 128390 said:
Trains from the Sheffield dir especially loco hauled have to to Kilnhurst or even Doncaster to Run round come back and rev in so the locomotive does not get trapped in........and scapped.
ROFL!

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