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LTS Mon-Fri Jan/Feb 2020 14/04/2020 at 08:57 #125762
phil1044
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I have submitted this timetable for release, details below:

Notes on the timetable
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This is a Mon-Fri timeatble, with the day chosen randomly. Many trains (escpecially freight) do not run on a daily basis, which gives a different scenario each time the simulation is run.

CC & LO Trains :
All CC workings are taken from the official diagrams. All timings are taken from cif files from the appropriate TOC.
LO services (class 710 EMUs) have had to be catagorised as DMU, as the route into Plat 1 at Barking was not electrified at the time when the Simulation was released.
Timings for both TOC's have been checked with the relevant WTT's and with that shown from charlwoodhouse.co.uk website.

ECS movements :
5V91/2 are paths for tye turning, if required.
5R91 and 5E92 are paths returning from tyre turning if required.
5S98, 5E97, 5S02, 5E87 and 5V97, 5E91 are ECS paths if required.
5V81, 5V82, 5R49, 5E98 runs as required.
5G81/85/86 and 5G91/2/3/4/5/7/8 are training trips as and when required.
In reality 5S73 departs at 0907 from Shoeburyness before 1B43 leaves, but Iv'e made it depart 6 mins later and from the rear to save major complications on the decision when compiling the timetable. This is due to 5G81/91 (as and when required) being forned at the rear off 1F62, and 5S73 not running.. Formations remain the same but many sets are swapped oved when this occurs. If any compilers or admins can shed any light on how this can be done in decision mode so that trains interpose in the correct position at Shoeburyness please get in touch ! Thanks.

Freight :
All freight trains times are from the official cif files, consists are checked with trains that have ran during the period of the timetable (January-February 2020). Checks have been made as to what days trains actually ran historically, and the decisions of DOTW (Day of the week) is based on this imformation.
99% of the Freight trains in this timetable only run on certain days, which will give adifferernt scenario each time the Sim is run.
Barking Eurohub complex was brought into use after this sim was created, so I have used Stora Sidings for Eurohub services.

Thanks :
Thanks go to Geoff Mayo for creating the sim in the first place,
Chris Law for assistance with the cif filles and to Tony Hutchins for giving the timetable a local look through.

Enjoy !

Phil Hodgson (Phil1044)

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LTS Mon-Fri Jan/Feb 2020 15/04/2020 at 09:31 #125812
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Thanks to Postal and his knowledge of Decisions, I have now have the correct divisions for the variants of 1F62 sorted out.
However, I'm now finding that once the train has split into either 5S73/5G81/5G91 (whichever one runs on any said day) the trains are in the correct position, but dont interpose correctly.
Is this due to the fact that ARS doesn't like to deal with complicated divisions (although there is only one division on any said day) or is it a bug?

The divisions I have done on 1F62s arrival at Shoeburyness Plat 1 are :

DR : 5S73 (Chioce 5S73)
DR : 1B43 (choice [any] 5G81 | 5G91)
N : 1B43 (choice 5S73)
N : 5G81 (choice 5G81)
N : 5G91 (choice 5G91)

The timings for these trains are ;
1F62 arr 0857 (12 car)
5S73 dep 0907 (4 car) - does not run if either 5G81 or 5G91 runs
1B43 dep 0910 (8 car)
5G81 dep 0930 (4 car) - runs occasionally but not if 5G91 is chosen
5G91 dep 0930 (4 car) - runs occasionally but not if 5G81 is chosen

I will release an updated version of the timetable once I get this little problem sorted.

Any comments or advice welcome.

Last edited: 15/04/2020 at 10:14 by phil1044
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LTS Mon-Fri Jan/Feb 2020 15/04/2020 at 09:45 #125814
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If the ARS/ACI is working as explained in the Wiki (and the buffer end berth is showing the R berth), the two berths should be populated as

1) If 5S73 runs, buffer end should show 1F62, country end should show 5S73 then 1B43,
2) If 5G81 runs, buffer end should show 1F62, country end should show 1B43 then 5G81,
3) If 5G91 runs, buffer end should show 1F62, country end should show 1B43 then 5G91.

If the sim is set up so the R berth is hidden, you should be seeing:

1) Buffer end 1B43, country end 5S73
2) Buffer end 5G81, country end 1B43
3) Buffer end 5G91, country end 1B43

What are you actually seeing?

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LTS Mon-Fri Jan/Feb 2020 15/04/2020 at 10:08 #125816
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The buffer end always shows 1F62 as it should. The non buffer end shows either of the ECS trains regardless.
On checking train list they are in the position they should be so the decision method is correct, but they don't Interpose correctly.
When a train moves off from the front (1B43 or 5S73) the buffer end train doesn't Interpose to 5G81/5G91/1B43 as it should.

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LTS Mon-Fri Jan/Feb 2020 15/04/2020 at 12:26 #125819
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phil1044 in post 125816 said:
The buffer end always shows 1F62 as it should. The non buffer end shows either of the ECS trains regardless.
On checking train list they are in the position they should be so the decision method is correct, but they don't Interpose correctly.
When a train moves off from the front (1B43 or 5S73) the buffer end train doesn't Interpose to 5G81/5G91/1B43 as it should.
Looks like the SimSig ARS isn't programmed to understand all the implications of decisions. Not surprising as the real world won't have a decision to read; the real ARS will be reading from the TT file for the day which will have the actual working embedded. One for the SimSig signaller to manage on their own I reckon.

The SimSig signaller will have to interpose the TDs manually if (s)he wants the ARS to work as it is driven by the display in the berth, not the underlying data that the F2 screen shows.

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Last edited: 15/04/2020 at 13:00 by postal
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LTS Mon-Fri Jan/Feb 2020 15/04/2020 at 17:11 #125822
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postal in post 125819 said:
Looks like the SimSig ARS isn't programmed to understand all the implications of decisions. Not surprising as the real world won't have a decision to read; the real ARS will be reading from the TT file for the day which will have the actual working embedded. One for the SimSig signaller to manage on their own I reckon.

The SimSig signaller will have to interpose the TDs manually if (s)he wants the ARS to work as it is driven by the display in the berth, not the underlying data that the F2 screen shows.
This is correct, for the moment.

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LTS Mon-Fri Jan/Feb 2020 15/04/2020 at 18:50 #125827
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I've moved a couple of posts to the Testers' forum (not accessible to everybody) to discuss what they raised: https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Forum/ThreadView/50657
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