Upcoming Games


Full list
Add a game

Replicating a given scenario.

You are here: Home > Forum > General > General questions, comments, and issues > Replicating a given scenario.

Page 1 of 1

Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 18:12 #128633
bugsy
Avatar
748 posts
I was just about to a query why a crew change at Peterborough was cancelled when I diverted a train from platform 4 to platform 5, but when I re-ran the sim from an earlier save to check it, the crew change went ahead as scheduled.

So, I have just learnt that you can’t necessarily replicate a given scenario by re-running a sim from an earlier save. Come to think of it, this has happened before, but I didn't think too much of it.
...




Post has attachments. Log in to view them.
Your life can have a thousand different meanings or maybe just one....I'd recommend more than one in case you got it wrong - (Rezende)
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 18:30 #128637
jc92
Avatar
3025 posts
Online
I'm confused. a crew change is part of the timetable NOT a scenario. the trains appear to have identical UID's so it should always have a crew change booked.

Side note - you are correct however - the same delays and failures won't occur on the rerun of a save file and will be randomly generated with each play through.

Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 18:31 #128638
GeoffM
Avatar
5019 posts
Online
What message did you receive about a cancellation of a crew change? I don't recall it doing that without user intervention.

Just to note, when the crew change is complete, the activity will be removed.

SimSig Boss
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 18:41 #128640
Jan
Avatar
718 posts
jc92 in post 128637 said:
Side note - you are correct however - the same delays and failures won't occur on the rerun of a save file and will be randomly generated with each play through.

The thing with crew changes though is that you might have already received a phone call about it, but since subsequent save file don't include that fact, the core code rolls the dice again when you reload that save, even if the result might contradict the earlier phone call (which is still noted in the incident log for that matter).

Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick.
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 18:58 #128641
bugsy
Avatar
748 posts
GeoffM in post 128638 said:
What message did you receive about a cancellation of a crew change? I don't recall it doing that without user intervention.

Just to note, when the crew change is complete, the activity will be removed.
I didn't receive any messages Geoff. The Timetable window was just different when I clicked on the train TD to see how the crew change was progressing, although I could have just kept an eye on the Train List instead, but that didn't show the crew change either.
When I re-ran from an earlier save, everything just happened correctly.
...


Post has attachments. Log in to view them.
Your life can have a thousand different meanings or maybe just one....I'd recommend more than one in case you got it wrong - (Rezende)
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 19:03 #128642
postal
Avatar
4263 posts
Online
bugsy in post 128641 said:
GeoffM in post 128638 said:
What message did you receive about a cancellation of a crew change? I don't recall it doing that without user intervention.

Just to note, when the crew change is complete, the activity will be removed.
I didn't receive any messages Geoff. The Timetable window was just different when I clicked on the train TD to see how the crew change was progressing, although I could have just kept an eye on the Train List instead, but that didn't show the crew change either.
When I re-ran from an earlier save, everything just happened correctly.
...

What time was all this happening? The crew change may already have completed.

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 19:04 #128643
Hap
Avatar
403 posts
Online
It really would be helpful if a .SSG was provided so that we can see or even try to reproduce what you are experiencing, even if there isn't a problem/bug/issue/gremlins....
HAP
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 19:13 #128644
jc92
Avatar
3025 posts
Online
I think Geoff and postal have hit the nail on the head. the train will have crew changed and you probably looked at the TT and noticed the activity was gone. You've then rerun the save and the activity was there as normal.
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 19:16 #128645
bugsy
Avatar
748 posts
Hap in post 128643 said:
It really would be helpful if a .SSG was provided so that we can see or even try to reproduce what you are experiencing, even if there isn't a problem/bug/issue/gremlins....
OK. I have attached 3 saves for you to choose from.
The snapshot that I re-ran and which didn't replicate the problem was the 01:10 one. I don't know what will happen if you run either of the other 2.

Best of luck

Post has attachments. Log in to view them.
Your life can have a thousand different meanings or maybe just one....I'd recommend more than one in case you got it wrong - (Rezende)
Last edited: 30/06/2020 at 19:16 by bugsy
Reason: None given

Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 19:23 #128646
bugsy
Avatar
748 posts
Another odd thing is that I also got 5 notifications of the crew change in the Incident Report window.
I thought that this was odd.

Post has attachments. Log in to view them.
Your life can have a thousand different meanings or maybe just one....I'd recommend more than one in case you got it wrong - (Rezende)
Last edited: 30/06/2020 at 19:24 by bugsy
Reason: None given

Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 19:33 #128647
MarkC
Avatar
939 posts
Online
bugsy in post 128646 said:
Another odd thing is that I also got 5 notifications of the crew change in the Incident Report window.
I thought that this was odd.
The First notification would of been based on the Timetable of the train when it first came in, the next 2 would be the result of timetable changes that you had made as it would reset the the crew change phone call, the last 2 are an idication that the train arrived at peterborough and the crew change has finnished.

2020. The year your bin goes out more than you do
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 19:38 #128649
GeoffM
Avatar
5019 posts
Online
bugsy in post 128641 said:
The Timetable window was just different when I clicked on the train TD to see how the crew change was progressing
Right, so it was already underway and when you looked again, it was complete.

SimSig Boss
Log in to reply
Replicating a given scenario. 30/06/2020 at 23:31 #128688
bugsy
Avatar
748 posts
jc92 in post 128644 said:
I think Geoff and postal have hit the nail on the head. the train will have crew changed and you probably looked at the TT and noticed the activity was gone. You've then rerun the save and the activity was there as normal.
I can't believe that I have actually done that. If that's what has truly happened then I must be going mad. And in that case I can only apologise for wasting everyone's time.
I'm really cracking up

Your life can have a thousand different meanings or maybe just one....I'd recommend more than one in case you got it wrong - (Rezende)
Log in to reply