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Some missing loop lengths in manual 29/07/2021 at 18:56 #140833
Dionysusnu
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I'm looking for the following track lengths, that are not listed in the manual:
- Bedwyn LOS (max length that still releases the crossover)
- Whites Crossing Siding
- R869 to R830
- R485 to R830

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Some missing loop lengths in manual 06/08/2021 at 15:04 #141008
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I can give you the in-sim TC lengths, but especially around the quarries these might not represent reality.

Bedwyn LOS: two track circuits in the list of 795m and 834m respectively (TBUY1 and TBUY2); they are not distinguished on the panel. Usually I'd say you need to add them up to get 1629m but that seems to be rather long for this piece of track to me. Need someone to confirm how this works as I see no need for a second track circuit (there is no level crossing to activate or something like that.)
Whites Crossing Siding: 800m.
R869 to R830: 963m.
R485 to R830: 337m.

Edit: Please note that a sim update is coming as discussed in your topic on the Racecourse station. The lengths that I gave are from the current public release, not the upcoming updated version. Although I don't think much will change to the lengths as the Reading panel has already been revised in a previous update.

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Last edited: 06/08/2021 at 15:11 by Albert
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Some missing loop lengths in manual 06/08/2021 at 15:17 #141009
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Whites Crossing can't be right.. I tried a 760m train and it wouldn't fit. Bedwyn LOS might genuinely be that long, as it's not a real LOS but a fictional one to represent engines attaching on the front? Or so I was told by pedroathome.
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Some missing loop lengths in manual 06/08/2021 at 15:53 #141011
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(Using test version)

Bedwyn:
The signal is at 834m - so trains stop 832m into the TC. Would seem to be the reason for the split TC.
However any movements would have to be under verbal control, no route to it from the down line and no signal from it to anywhere.

Whites:
800m is correct. Just tested it and a 780m train fitted OK.

Bill

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Some missing loop lengths in manual 06/08/2021 at 16:00 #141012
Dionysusnu
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bill_gensheet in post 141011 said:
Bedwyn:
The signal is at 834m - so trains stop 832m into the TC. Would seem to be the reason for the split TC.
However any movements would have to be under verbal control, no route to it from the down line and no signal from it to anywhere.
In the current version, there is a route from the up line shunt signal to the LOS. Has that been removed in the update?
bill_gensheet in post 141011 said:
Whites:
800m is correct. Just tested it and a 780m train fitted OK.
Hmm, odd. I'll retry my test.

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Some missing loop lengths in manual 06/08/2021 at 16:19 #141013
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Bedwyn up to LOS is still there.

Bedwyn down to LOS is, correctly and sources rechecked, NOT there - so signalled moves need to use the siding.

Bill

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Some missing loop lengths in manual 06/08/2021 at 17:05 #141014
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The “LOS” at Bedwyn isn’t there and never has been - the route in real life was from the Dummy on the Up Westbury to reattach a Loco to a train after (Milk?) wagons had been detached and left in the Up Siding - now the reversing siding.

As such for the signal to come off I’m fairly sure the conditions were quite stringent - I think both the platform track circuit and the track circuit alongside the siding on the Up Westbury had to be occupied for a minimum time period. I’ve got the controls somewhere I’ll dig them out.

There’s definitely no route from the Down Westbury to it, and never has been.

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