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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 06/02/2022 at 13:08 #145041
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Gets worse if you look further back, TD were used like bus numbers !

All Walsall - Aston - Birmingham 2G51
All Wolves - Birmingham 2G61 (2G60 if from Stafford)
All Birmingham - Chester 2D66
etc

Still thinking how to approach this one for my possible 1975 TT set, may well use the current TD conventions.

Last edited: 06/02/2022 at 13:09 by bill_gensheet
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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 06/02/2022 at 14:25 #145044
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bill_gensheet in post 145041 said:
Gets worse if you look further back, TD were used like bus numbers !

All Walsall - Aston - Birmingham 2G51
All Wolves - Birmingham 2G61 (2G60 if from Stafford)
All Birmingham - Chester 2D66
etc

Still thinking how to approach this one for my possible 1975 TT set, may well use the current TD conventions.

Maybe using UIDs may resolve the TD issue there Bill, but the bigger problem with a 1970s era TT is the fact that Exchange carriage sdgs aren't on the sim.

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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 06/02/2022 at 20:14 #145049
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While UIDs will sort writing and make rules and any joins work on the right train, it was the user interactions as mentioned above that were more my concern. I have just finished entering a [redacted] timetable where all the real TD were just two digits, class and route.

As for the exchange sidings, I was not planning to include Saltley as Moor St looks quite incompatible unless I use (new) Snow Hill in place of Moor St.
Initially my scope is Wolverhampton and then Birmingham, so I can simply enter ECS from St Andrews Jn.

Bill

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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 06/02/2022 at 20:59 #145051
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bill_gensheet in post 145049 said:
While UIDs will sort writing and make rules and any joins work on the right train, it was the user interactions as mentioned above that were more my concern. I have just finished entering a [redacted] timetable where all the real TD were just two digits, class and route.

As for the exchange sidings, I was not planning to include Saltley as Moor St looks quite incompatible unless I use (new) Snow Hill in place of Moor St.
Initially my scope is Wolverhampton and then Birmingham, so I can simply enter ECS from St Andrews Jn.

Bill
Bill I do actually have a 1973 station A&D book for Wolverhampton if that helps. I can scan it for you if you like.

Last edited: 06/02/2022 at 21:52 by 58050
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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 06/02/2022 at 23:35 #145054
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bill_gensheet in post 145049 said:
While UIDs will sort writing and make rules and any joins work on the right train, it was the user interactions as mentioned above that were more my concern. I have just finished entering a [redacted] timetable where all the real TD were just two digits, class and route.

As for the exchange sidings, I was not planning to include Saltley as Moor St looks quite incompatible unless I use (new) Snow Hill in place of Moor St.
Initially my scope is Wolverhampton and then Birmingham, so I can simply enter ECS from St Andrews Jn.

Bill
Exchange sidings is nothing to do with Saltley, the shunt frame box was released by new street and located firmly on the new street panel, not Saltley. Virtually all the loco hauled ECS and some NPCCS goes to and from there so it as pascal says, it'll create an extra job trying to find somewhere to put it all!

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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 07/02/2022 at 09:42 #145057
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bill_gensheet in post 145049 said:
While UIDs will sort writing and make rules and any joins work on the right train, it was the user interactions as mentioned above that were more my concern. I have just finished entering a [redacted] timetable where all the real TD were just two digits, class and route.
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<snip>

Bill
Sounds like the old York or Liverpool Street describers of the late 1940s/early '50s. The Liverpool Street system also had a diamond indication for electric trains. Given how old the tech was, it was still working remarkably well in the late 1970s.

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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 07/02/2022 at 11:33 #145061
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[redacted] timetable

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Birmingham New Street Summer 1990 TT 07/02/2022 at 11:53 #145064
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slatteryc in post 145061 said:
[redacted] timetable

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As originally posted - not mods having to remove anything <g>

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