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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 16/01/2022 at 19:48 #143596
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ajax103 in post 143595 said:
Just a quick one for the Developer but could it be possible for the tool to be used by clients in MP mode please?
It's already possible, but the server you're connecting to needs to have the interface gateway open, and you need to have a copy of the timetable in use saved locally.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 16/01/2022 at 21:16 #143597
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That's interesting, cheers Karl - I was wondering how it would work as the client obviously doesn't have the option of setting Interface Gateway to be open on connection.
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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 17/01/2022 at 20:53 #143610
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Interesting concept. While I got it to work on a free simulation I'm struggling with the paid sims.

When inputting in the command for -user <myusername> -pass <mypassword> I keep getting a "The syntax of the command is incorrect".

Any suggestions folks in where I'm going wrong?

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 17/01/2022 at 21:01 #143611
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Fleet Controller in post 143610 said:
Interesting concept. While I got it to work on a free simulation I'm struggling with the paid sims.

When inputting in the command for -user <myusername> -pass <mypassword> I keep getting a "The syntax of the command is incorrect".

Any suggestions folks in where I'm going wrong?
Random guess, but could the space in your username be causing a problem? No idea if quote marks around it would be accepted.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 17/01/2022 at 21:14 #143612
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Steamer in post 143611 said:
Fleet Controller in post 143610 said:
Interesting concept. While I got it to work on a free simulation I'm struggling with the paid sims.

When inputting in the command for -user <myusername> -pass <mypassword> I keep getting a "The syntax of the command is incorrect".

Any suggestions folks in where I'm going wrong?
Random guess, but could the space in your username be causing a problem? No idea if quote marks around it would be accepted.
That did cross my mind. Just need to @jonathanp to confirm if that's an issue. I did try quotes around the username and got the same error.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 17/01/2022 at 21:23 #143613
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Fleet Controller in post 143612 said:
Steamer in post 143611 said:
Fleet Controller in post 143610 said:
Interesting concept. While I got it to work on a free simulation I'm struggling with the paid sims.

When inputting in the command for -user <myusername> -pass <mypassword> I keep getting a "The syntax of the command is incorrect".

Any suggestions folks in where I'm going wrong?
Random guess, but could the space in your username be causing a problem? No idea if quote marks around it would be accepted.
That did cross my mind. Just need to @jonathanp to confirm if that's an issue. I did try quotes around the username and got the same error.
departureboard.exe -user "Fleet Controller" -pass password

replace password with whatever your password is. Just tried it with a test account we have and it worked fine with the space in the username.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 17/01/2022 at 22:02 #143615
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headshot119 in post 143613 said:
Fleet Controller in post 143612 said:
Steamer in post 143611 said:
Fleet Controller in post 143610 said:
Interesting concept. While I got it to work on a free simulation I'm struggling with the paid sims.

When inputting in the command for -user <myusername> -pass <mypassword> I keep getting a "The syntax of the command is incorrect".

Any suggestions folks in where I'm going wrong?
Random guess, but could the space in your username be causing a problem? No idea if quote marks around it would be accepted.
That did cross my mind. Just need to @jonathanp to confirm if that's an issue. I did try quotes around the username and got the same error.
departureboard.exe -user "Fleet Controller" -pass password

replace password with whatever your password is. Just tried it with a test account we have and it worked fine with the space in the username.
Thanks for that. Got over that problem but discovered another problem. When it opens the new chrome window it says it didn't get any data and the CMD PROMPT throws up a lot of error messages. Again I've tried it on a free sim and no issues.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) 17/01/2022 at 22:15 #143616
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Fleet Controller in post 143615 said:
headshot119 in post 143613 said:
Fleet Controller in post 143612 said:
Steamer in post 143611 said:
Fleet Controller in post 143610 said:
Interesting concept. While I got it to work on a free simulation I'm struggling with the paid sims.

When inputting in the command for -user <myusername> -pass <mypassword> I keep getting a "The syntax of the command is incorrect".

Any suggestions folks in where I'm going wrong?
Random guess, but could the space in your username be causing a problem? No idea if quote marks around it would be accepted.
That did cross my mind. Just need to @jonathanp to confirm if that's an issue. I did try quotes around the username and got the same error.
departureboard.exe -user "Fleet Controller" -pass password

replace password with whatever your password is. Just tried it with a test account we have and it worked fine with the space in the username.
Thanks for that. Got over that problem but discovered another problem. When it opens the new chrome window it says it didn't get any data and the CMD PROMPT throws up a lot of error messages. Again I've tried it on a free sim and no issues.

See attached.

OK after a bit more fault finding I've discovered where I was going wrong and I now got the files in the correct location and its working for me. This back end of computer stuff always confuses me!

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 05:08 #143618
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Fleet Controller in post 143610 said:
Interesting concept. While I got it to work on a free simulation I'm struggling with the paid sims.

When inputting in the command for -user <myusername> -pass <mypassword> I keep getting a "The syntax of the command is incorrect".

Any suggestions folks in where I'm going wrong?
I don't get that, I get The system cannot find the path specified when I try to follow the method suggested by Headshot119 for payware sims which is annoying :/

Assuming you've extracted to a folder on your Desktop. Open command prompt and without quote marks do

"CD C:\Users\Karl\Downloads\departureboard-0.0.1-amd64"
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"CD C:\Whereveryouhaveputthefolder"

then

"departureboard.exe -user andyallen4014 -pass password"
obviously replace password with whatever your SimSig password is.


Also with regards to the clock in the departure board, is it possible for it to show the exact same time as currently shows in the sim eg hour, min and sec please so it auto refreshes please?

Also instead of having unknown, could it show on time instead then show cancelled if the stop has been removed or 2 mins late etc

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 08:39 #143619
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I managed to get it to work for payware sims but only after i'd followed Karl's excellent instructions!

I'd quite like the display to only show the destination of the service as per a normal board for passengers, but I assume that would depend on what fields had been populated in the timetable editor screen for this to be possible.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 08:51 #143621
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I tried it and after a fashion got it to work on Aston - looks good.
What I did notice was that it used the TIPLOCK, is there a way to reference the name?
Also the only way I could find to look at a different location was to exit and relaunch your exe - is that correct or did I miss something?
I did not get as far as seeing what would happen if I replatformed a train, just curious as to what would happen.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 17:25 #143628
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Still refuses to work for payware sims, keeps coming back with errors that only the freeware ones work - I've followed the instructions to the letter and it just refuses to work.
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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 17:30 #143629
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ajax103 in post 143628 said:
Still refuses to work for payware sims, keeps coming back with errors that only the freeware ones work - I've followed the instructions to the letter and it just refuses to work.
It works fine with licensed simulations, you need to run it form the command line following the instructions in this thread, including supplying your SimSig login credentials to authenticate with the license server.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 17:45 #143630
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Interestingly after Karl helped me yesterday I managed to get it to work.

However on trying again today with various paid sims i'm managing to get it to accept my credentials and open a timetable, but then i'm met with this rather than the board


EDIT - Realised I was being a pillock. So, yes, it does work for paid sims!

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 18:01 #143631
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Bearing in mind that it is work-in-progress and that @jonathanp has already said "to be accessible the tool needs a proper user interface. I will work on that and release a new version," there is probably not a lot of point in getting too exercised at this stage about it being difficult to get things to work properly (although it will probably be helpful for @jonathanp if bugs and glitches are reported).
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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 18:08 #143632
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postal in post 143631 said:
Bearing in mind that it is work-in-progress and that @jonathanp has already said "to be accessible the tool needs a proper user interface. I will work on that and release a new version," there is probably not a lot of point in getting too exercised at this stage about it being difficult to get things to work properly (although it will probably be helpful for @jonathanp if bugs and glitches are reported).
... which is precisely the reason for my post.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 21:43 #143643
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Thank you for the suggestions.

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Also the only way I could find to look at a different location was to exit and relaunch your exe - is that correct or did I miss something?

I guess the repeated refreshes bury the original page in the history. You can get back by going to http://localhost:8090/

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I did not get as far as seeing what would happen if I replatformed a train, just curious as to what would happen.
Replatforming shows up if SimSig reports the platform the train used(which doesn't seem to happen at all stops). However this only happens once the train has arrived in the platform. In reality I assume the signaller has to manually input it somehow, I guess that could a new dimension for the future.

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I'd quite like the display to only show the destination of the service as per a normal board for passengers, but I assume that would depend on what fields had been populated in the timetable editor screen for this to be possible.
Not all timetables have a destination field. On those that do, it is sometimes the the actual name, and sometimes, as observed by Peter, the TIPLOC.

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What I did notice was that it used the TIPLOCK, is there a way to reference the name?
For that I would need a mapping of TIPLOC codes to names. It seems like Network Rail would be able to provide that and would allow distribution, but not immediately.

Possibly the most pragmatic solution would be just to rely on all timetable developers using the "xxxx Origin - Destination (traction)" description format and extract it from that.

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Also instead of having unknown, could it show on time instead then show cancelled if the stop has been removed or 2 mins late etc
Ah, "Cancelled" for missing trains is a clever idea, I like that At the moment it just waits 10 minutes after the scheduled time and them removes it if the service still isn't in the simulation area.

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Yesterday at 22:27 #143646
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jonathanp in post 143643 said:
Thank you for the suggestions.


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What I did notice was that it used the TIPLOCK, is there a way to reference the name?
For that I would need a mapping of TIPLOC codes to names. It seems like Network Rail would be able to provide that and would allow distribution, but not immediately.

Possibly the most pragmatic solution would be just to rely on all timetable developers using the "xxxx Origin - Destination (traction)" description format and extract it from that.
Ah, I see, so your exe loads the WTT and the WTT is coded by TIPLOC so picks that up - makes sense.
The Sim, on the other hand, contains the TIPLOC and a key NAM=Location linked to that.
Is it possible to pick that up through the interface?

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Live Departure Boards (SimSig) Today at 09:21 #143653
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jonathanp in post 143643 said:
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I did not get as far as seeing what would happen if I replatformed a train, just curious as to what would happen.
Replatforming shows up if SimSig reports the platform the train used(which doesn't seem to happen at all stops). However this only happens once the train has arrived in the platform. In reality I assume the signaller has to manually input it somehow, I guess that could a new dimension for the future.

Apart from manual input if somebody finds the time for that, I think the real systems might also be looking at the train describer and trigger a platform change if necessary once the train description steps into the platform berth – I have a distinct memory of having read somewhere that the even better solution would have been additionally looking at the route setting as well (i.e. a platform change is triggered as soon as the signalman sets a route into a differing platform), but whoever had to pay for that feature at the time didn't have the money, so instead we ended up with the current, not entirely satisfactory system, whereby automatic platform changes are only triggered once the train has passed the last signal before the platform, i.e. at relatively short notice.

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