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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 10:00 #145889
HST125Scorton
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Just loaded up a timetable for final edits on Warrington PSB and I pressed F4, went to the Train Tab, amended 10 trains pressed ok and then access violation appeared and wouldn't stop recurring every second. Must of been like 30-35 of them one after another. All the same access error codes. I can't give a save game as this was fresh load up of the timetable for just editing trains.

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This happened when I deleted a train off the timetable that was used by 5 train workings. In which I use the timetable analyser to put the missing trains back into the deleted trains I removed. Usually I do this and nothing happens violation wise on other sims seem Warrington hates me when I do things like this.

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OS: Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit
Loader: SimSig Loader version 5.19; Sim: Simulation Warrington PSB; data version 1.2
License: Dynamic license in use
TT: Warrington PSB 02-02-2019 Northern Strike v1.1.0
TT filename: Warrington PSB 02-02-2019 Northern Strike.WTT
TT merged: False
Sim upgrade: False
Loader upgrade: False
Save reloaded: False
NTORR_ENABLED active at start
NTORR active at start
NERA active at start
NERA_NEW active at start
NPROBLEMS active at start
NNONE active at start
NNORMAL active at start
NARPLEY_RUNROUND choice 1
NACTON_WARRINGTON choice 2
NGOLBORNE_WINWICK choice 3
NSPRB_GOLBORNE choice 4
NWARRINGTON_WINWICK choice 5
NWARRINGTON_PLATFORM choice 6
NWIGAN_NW_PLATFORM choice 7
NPICK_RANDOM_1 choice 8
NPICK_RANDOM_2 choice 9
NPICK_RANDOM_3 choice 10

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Last edited: 28/03/2022 at 10:08 by HST125Scorton
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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 12:31 #145890
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I have had this happen too but it only occurred after I had merged 3 or 4 timetables into one and tried to save the game file. There was no way of "beating back" the dialog boxes.
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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 12:41 #145891
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It sometimes happens when editing TTs and as I understand it, its a pretty random address that gets picked out making it practically impossible to find. It does happen in other sims and I know how frustrating this can be. Small batches of edits and regular saves helps,

I've just finished a batch of changes to a Warrington TT, extra decisions, duplicated schedule etc, before analysing I check the schedule edited in the main F4 window and if it appears in dark red instead of black after the edit, I just close and re-open F4 then analyize.

Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!!
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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 12:47 #145892
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Newhampshires in post 145890 said:
There was no way of "beating back" the dialog boxes.

The dialog auto-focuses on its close button. If you repeatedly press the "enter" key quickly, you should be able to close faster than the new boxes appear.

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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 13:46 #145893
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but do new boxes not keep appearing ?
That is my experience of this condition.

Task manager is the only way out for me, and I find it most likely when removing (unused) train types

Bill

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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 13:56 #145894
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bill_gensheet in post 145893 said:
but do new boxes not keep appearing ?
That is my experience of this condition.

Task manager is the only way out for me, and I find it most likely when removing (unused) train types

Bill
When I encountered this, the boxes stopped appearing after they had all been closed at once. But it may be different for you.
I got the issue when deleting train types as well.

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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 13:57 #145895
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Task Manager was the only way out for myself also. In my case it was when removing a train that had 5 services associated with said train removed. I usually do this often and never get the access violation only seems to happen for me on Warrington PSB sim. Luckily when I make some edits I save them on multiple saves.
Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer
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Recurring Access Violation 28/03/2022 at 19:00 #145900
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I've had this before but previously I was not able to reliably reproduce it. However, I have now, and have also fixed it - at least where I was able to reproduce it. Mantis 0035949.
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