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Flashing yellow junction signal remains yellow after route cancelled 11/12/2022 at 14:39 #149226
Dionysusnu
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I believe I have found a bug, where the junction signal of a flashing yellow sequence remains at yellow after the route from the flashing signal is cancelled.
These are the reproduction steps:
- Set the route from signal A to signal B, and signal B to signal C.
-> signal A becomes flashing single yellow, signal B becomes steady single yellow.
- Cancel the route from signal A to signal B (and if applicable, wait for the approach locking to drop)
- Pause immediately after the last track circuit stops showing white
-> signal B stays at a steady single yellow
- While still paused, set a route from signal X to signal B
- Unpause
-> signal B continues to show a steady single yellow
-> signal X clears to a non-flashing aspect (after conditions like approach control where applicable)

When starting fresh, setting signal X to signal B, and signal B to signal C, will cause signal B to stay at red, leading me to believe it staying at yellow in the reproduction case is a bug.

I've found this in three cases:
Stafford, at Stafford station:
Signal A: SD4 81
Signal B: SD5 14
Signal C: NB159
Signal X: SD4 83 or SD4 64 or SD4 66 (any of the 3 works for the reproduction steps)

SwinDid, at Moreton Cutting Jn Down direction:
Signal A: 901
Signal B: 905
Signal C: 913
Signal X: 903

SwinDid, at Moreton Cutting Jn Up direction:
Signal A: 912
Signal B: 904
Signal C: UR50
Signal X: 916

Westbury, at Newbury:
Signal A: R822
Signal B: R824
Signal C: R838
Signal X: R484

Last edited: 11/12/2022 at 19:35 by Dionysusnu
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Flashing yellow junction signal remains yellow after route cancelled 11/12/2022 at 19:10 #149233
Peter Bennet
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I think it's OK.
Looking at Stafford signal SD5_14 is set as approach control FY so if SD4_81 is flashing then SD5_14 clears based on that fact. The others do not have an FY aspect so the conditions to clear SD5_14 are not met.

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Flashing yellow junction signal remains yellow after route cancelled 11/12/2022 at 19:25 #149234
Dionysusnu
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So if the conditions are not met, why does SD5_14 still stay clear after SD4_81's route is cancelled? That's where I feel the bug is.
Edit: I've clarified the wording in the original post

Last edited: 11/12/2022 at 19:35 by Dionysusnu
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Flashing yellow junction signal remains yellow after route cancelled 11/12/2022 at 19:40 #149235
Peter Bennet
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Ah I see, it's because you are overlaying the route to SD5_14 before the original route has been fully been released.
In that case - pass.

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Flashing yellow junction signal remains yellow after route cancelled 11/12/2022 at 21:56 #149245
GeoffM
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Given that you have a single cycle in which to achieve this, I don't think there is much of an issue.
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