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| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 06/01/2024 at 22:19 #154989 | |
C.Gillibrand
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From time to time, you get a hellish set of cards dealt to you, and you'd just wish the trains could pass the issues under their own steam, kind of like in TBW (Temporary Block Working) or ESW (Emergency Special Working) I'd love to see an implementation of ESW, whereas you set the limits of ESW (Signal Entry, Signal Exit) and advise the driver upon call when waiting at red signal to advise them of ESW being in place. This is a pretty niche feature but i'd love to see it ingame. See reference materials for ESW Implementation (Youtube, Rulebook etc) Don't dispatch against a red - You'll be going nowhere Log in to reply |
| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 07/01/2024 at 12:24 #154991 | |
ajax103
1106 posts |
Interesting but I like to see a improvement on the pass signal at danger and proceed with care in that the first train though that section should be told this but proceeding trains should be just told to pass signal at caution especially if if as the signaller you're aware of what the issue is. As a example, it could be a TCF affecting a track circuit on the approach onto a level crossing, the first driver would be told to check the line at 20mph to check if it's safe with latter drivers simply told to proceed at 20 to 40mph without them rechecking the line. In any case, instead of getting nothing found as per usual why don't we see reports like flood water, cattle lineside, obstruction on the line eg trampolines etc which would be a challenging variety. Log in to reply |
| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 07/01/2024 at 12:53 #154992 | |
Stephen Fulcher
2026 posts |
Simsig as a policy does not simulate accidents etc. which is why you always get told the line is clear when examining the line. This is longstanding and presumably unlikely to change.
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| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 07/01/2024 at 14:30 #154994 | |
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RabidRabbit
13 posts |
I would agree with ajax103 in regards to more things happening when the driver examines the line. I think they don't have to be accidents..the driver could say that they found an obstruction, stopped clear and the train has to wait a bit longer while the obstruction is cleared or something along these lines
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| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 08/01/2024 at 01:31 #154996 | |
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C.Gillibrand
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Stephen Fulcher in post 154992 said:Simsig as a policy does not simulate accidents etc. which is why you always get told the line is clear when examining the line. This is longstanding and presumably unlikely to change.My intention would not be accidents, more of where you get a TCF (Track Circuit Failure) and a signal failure within proximity. The implementation of TBW/ESW would be useful in these situations as you would be able to allow a train to pass through that section as a single block, allowing it to speed up the passage of trains through the failed sections and try and retain some time whilst dealing with the failures. Don't dispatch against a red - You'll be going nowhere Last edited: 08/01/2024 at 01:32 by C.Gillibrand Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: KCRCRailway |
| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 08/01/2024 at 10:33 #154998 | |
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ajax103
1106 posts |
RabidRabbit in post 154994 said:I would agree with ajax103 in regards to more things happening when the driver examines the line. I think they don't have to be accidents..the driver could say that they found an obstruction, stopped clear and the train has to wait a bit longer while the obstruction is cleared or something along these lines:)Exactly, won't be a accident but rather different types of obstructions after all if they're good enough for the meetup sessions see the Merseyside/North Wales one as a example than surely they are good enough for single person usage? I am of course referring to the wheel of doom that tends to be used for the above and it would provide more of a challenge and variety than no obstruction found every single time. It would run on the same logic as existing faults so there could be a low chance or a higher chance of a obstruction affecting the gameplay at some point where as the driver would as the previous poster stated would stop clear of the obstruction, call it in and as the signaller you would have to wait until it was reopen the line. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: jsm1223, mldaureol |
| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 08/01/2024 at 21:00 #155008 | |
Peter Bennet
5360 posts |
Cambridge has Bridge Strike and Pilot working, though that was all specially coded by Clive. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 09/01/2024 at 08:26 #155010 | |
Giantray
330 posts |
ajax103 in post 154991 said:Interesting but I like to see a improvement on the pass signal at danger and proceed with care in that the first train though that section should be told this but proceeding trains should be just told to pass signal at caution especially if if as the signaller you're aware of what the issue is..You can do that. When the first driver rings in, select your reply "Ask driver to pass signal at stop and examine line". then subsequent drivers when they ring in,"Authorise driver to pass signal at stop". Retired Professional Railwayman (1981-2023); Pway & S&T (1981-88); Former Signalman/Signaller/ Signalling Trainer (1989-2023) [AB, TCB, Mechanical, NX, WestCad, Hitachi SARS]; Railway Historian (esp.SER, LCDR); Member of The Permanent Way Institution.. Log in to reply |
| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 09/01/2024 at 08:40 #155011 | |
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Giantray
330 posts |
Use you imagination and create scenarios in your mind. Okay the sim will have the driver ring back everytime the line is examined and it will be clear, but use you imagination and pretend they didn't and make a scenario and work around it. Caution all trains, keep doing this until you have someone attend the problem, you decided. I used to train Signallers on WestCad and the simulators are a lot like Simsig. Not everything can be within the sim, so I used to create my own scenarios to test signallers ability to deal with situations and use their knowledge of Rules. Pretend there was a broken rail. Pretend the pway turn up wanting a block of the line. Pretend there is a bridge bash. Create track failures, drop a track, get the signallers to work through it,have technicians attend and block the line, get signaller to continue working trains around or by getting technicians to clear their block to run trains. Use your imagnation Simsig can be used to create a lot of scenarios, there is no way the creators can put every thing in Simsig, the scenarios are endless. If I could get my head around hosting a multi-session I would have so much fun putting Simsiggers to the test. Retired Professional Railwayman (1981-2023); Pway & S&T (1981-88); Former Signalman/Signaller/ Signalling Trainer (1989-2023) [AB, TCB, Mechanical, NX, WestCad, Hitachi SARS]; Railway Historian (esp.SER, LCDR); Member of The Permanent Way Institution.. Last edited: 09/01/2024 at 08:42 by Giantray Reason: None given Log in to reply The following user said thank you: JamesN |
| Implementation of ESW (Emergency Special Working) 09/01/2024 at 10:28 #155012 | |
jc92
3630 posts |
An basic example that I do is when a train drops a track circuit behind it. There's no option to request for the driver to examine his train and report back, but you can tell him to wait 10 minutes and call back and in your head he's taking 10 minutes to walk around his train and then call back to (inevitably) confirm no faults found. Regarding authorising drivers past a signal at danger, I'm almost certain they don't run at caution and proceed at line speed. The only time they seem to run at caution is if asked to examine the line. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |