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| Deliberately delaying my trains 05/03/2010 at 19:37 #809 | |
trolleybus
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I wondered if any other players do what I do from time to time? Go to the loo, eat a meal, take a phone call or do something else for a while (or a long while) leaving the sim running, just for the fun of trying to sort out the mess afterwards. In particular I sometimes try to recover from lengthy delays without cancelling anything just to see if I can. This can be especially interesting with the well-written timetables that make extensive use of rules, such as Kurts's 1985 masterpieces. It can be tricky recovering from a four-hour delay, especially when when you have several slow freights that need to shunt at Cambridge or captive passenger units like the NLL sets or the GN inners. But there are at least a few pleasantly-surprised pax getting a peak-hour service at midday (or midnight). Log in to reply |
| Deliberately delaying my trains 05/03/2010 at 19:37 #7106 | |
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trolleybus
142 posts |
I wondered if any other players do what I do from time to time? Go to the loo, eat a meal, take a phone call or do something else for a while (or a long while) leaving the sim running, just for the fun of trying to sort out the mess afterwards. In particular I sometimes try to recover from lengthy delays without cancelling anything just to see if I can. This can be especially interesting with the well-written timetables that make extensive use of rules, such as Kurts's 1985 masterpieces. It can be tricky recovering from a four-hour delay, especially when when you have several slow freights that need to shunt at Cambridge or captive passenger units like the NLL sets or the GN inners. But there are at least a few pleasantly-surprised pax getting a peak-hour service at midday (or midnight). Log in to reply |
| Deliberately delaying my trains 05/03/2010 at 20:10 #7107 | |
Peter Bennet
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Kieran said:do you lose subsequent trains because they have no room to enter the sim? Regards. Kieran.It used to be that any 'late' train would always enter, even in you started a 00.00 timetable of 06.00- 6 hours of trains to sort out. I believe there is a 15 min limit now, so if after 15 mins a train has not entered it never will- not totally sure if rules will overide that so if a train would enter 5 mins late but there is a rule delaying it for 15 mins whether that's it. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Deliberately delaying my trains 05/03/2010 at 20:50 #7109 | |
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trolleybus
142 posts |
ISTR that Liverpool St. would start generating Train Cancelled messages if the queue trying to enter at Hackney Downs got too long. I haven't seen this in later sims. Does such a thing still happen?
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 05/03/2010 at 23:11 #7113 | |
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GoodbyeMrFish
148 posts |
waterloo does this too, i do this from time to time.
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 02/04/2010 at 08:12 #8099 | |
NorthernWarrior
74 posts |
I seem to be managing this without trying on my first attempt at Central Scotland. Just took about 90 mins to get the first Glasgow - Edinburgh across to Winchburgh. I need to work out what the pause button is...
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 02/04/2010 at 15:27 #8115 | |
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NR_signaller
18 posts |
'p' is pause!
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 03/04/2010 at 00:45 #8128 | |
flymo
135 posts |
Or just click the clock and it will pause the game. Click again to continue.
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 03/04/2010 at 01:42 #8130 | |
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Helper
20 posts |
I accidentally left a sim running a long time ago and had a real mess to sort out - Kings Cross I think it was. Since then I've done it deliberately quite often and made up some reason for it. There are a few points to consider when doing this: 1 Some outlets, usually a yard or MPD can become clogged and require a bit of "cheating" to sort it out e.g. shortening of trains. 2 If you have trains that have not yet entered the sim and are stacked up outside of the area and then save and re-load the sim, on older sims that do not track trains that have entered the area you will lose these trains as if they have been cancelled when re-loaded. On the more recent sims that have train tracking (press F4 and look at the timetable to check if it greys out trains that have entered the area) this does not occur 3 I think all sims have a maximum number of trains that are allowed in the sim of 100. When the number reaches 100 then any train not yet entered (because it is stacked up outside of the area is mmediately cancelled. This is rather annoying when you are operating a sim on this basis but does make it an interesting juggling act trying to keep the number below 100. 4 If you have trains backed up outside of the sim area then when you start bringing them on to the sim, they enter in ID order - not in time order. This can be a bit annoying but increases the difficulty. If you want to try operating sims like this then a couple to try are: 1 Kings Cross with the 1 July 1977 TT - cancel any automatic signals that are preset at the start of the sim and let it run until 8am without doing anything. Then pretend the Welwyn tunnels are closed and everything has to go via the Hertford loop. Not for the feint hearted! Your target score should be at least 25% :) 2 Edinburgh - Let it run until 10am before you start doing anything. Hint: watch Craigenny CS carefully. Log in to reply |
| Deliberately delaying my trains 03/04/2010 at 03:10 #8131 | |
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UKTrainMan
1803 posts |
I think I recall doing ssomething like this before on the lovely Waterloo sim during a private multiplaying session. Turned off ARS and just let trains pile up then eventually signalled them. Going off-topic I also recall turning ARS on for all areas/trains and just leaving the sim running at full speed whilst viewing the overview screen - kinda makes me laugh to see all those trains "ducking and diving" around the sim. Of course with the new Incident Control Panel you can now set your own closures/failures so that of course adds to the fun 
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 03/04/2010 at 07:17 #8135 | |
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NorthernWarrior
74 posts |
I used to do that with SIAM Inverness when I wasn't worried about points. Hold the incoming trains about six hours, then watch the chaos or send all the freights out about three hours late. The sub routines were quite clever as any corresponding back workings would return late, minus any slack in the turnround time.
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 03/04/2010 at 16:22 #8150 | |
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Helper
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Kings Cross has timing subroutines for trains to Peterboro' and Cambridge. If you send trains to those areas very late, the corresponding return that uses the same stock will also be late.
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| Deliberately delaying my trains 31/07/2010 at 20:51 #10387 | |
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Signalhunter
177 posts |
I've done similar at KX. Nothing in or out of the station (to simulate an evacuation for whatever reason). Leave all in bound trains to stack up and then, after an hour or so, give the all clear and try and sort the resulting mess out. The other one is a "wartime UXB" being discovered on the mainlines and run EVERYTHING via Hertford. I tend not to terminate anything short but occasionally stop an express to carry local service passengers. "GNER tickets are being accepted on FCC services, The Underground and London Busses" :cool: Log in to reply |