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Forthcoming Timetables 28/08/2015 at 22:16 #75517
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Kings Cross 1964 'lite' now released in downloads. This is a 'modern working' passenger only timetable so OK for one user.
While I have the information for adding freight, decided that can wait a while.

Now sorting out Motherwell 1984 which could be out in a couple of months.

Bill

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Forthcoming Timetables 31/08/2015 at 11:23 #75546
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Right. An update on the SwinDid (Bathampton Junction) TT - and it isn't one I wanted to give.

Having had a failure with an ECS at Thingley Junction last night on a test run (the train wouldn't reverse on the Up Line as it should have done) I have done a couple of adjustments this morning. However I got to 0640 sim time and found that 1G02 trying to start from Swindon towards Gloucester conflicts, due to the single line between Swindon (Loco Yard Jcn) and Kemble, with 1L10 from Worcester: things become impossible without one delaying the other and I have to realise that it is possible all trains may have been retimed by FGW to take account of the extra track that has been put in since this sim was released.

Therefore I will have to hope for an update to include the extra track between Swindon and Kemble: if that doesn't happen then a release of this 458-train timetable, which I have spent a lot of my spare time in the last 3½ months working on, is unlikely. Slightly crushing tbh.

:(

There is still some hope for release of the Westbury TT for the Bathampton Junction works which I have been doing in paralell to the Swindon one but the Swindon TT was the one I was most looking forward to releasing.

Dave

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Forthcoming Timetables 31/08/2015 at 11:35 #75547
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Dave just release it anyway, if the sim is then updated in the future it's a bonus, I wouldn't mind the trains being late.
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Forthcoming Timetables 31/08/2015 at 13:05 #75549
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If you aren't a stickler for 100% realism it might be possible to retime the trains slightly for the layout. Kaiwhara has done that with our SwinDid TT.
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Forthcoming Timetables 01/09/2015 at 00:50 #75562
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Thanks for the encouragement. I have now done a full analysis for Loco Yard Junction and attach it, as a spreadsheet, to this message.

I think I will adjust 1G02 so that it becomes

Swindon dep. 0631
Loco Yard Jcn: pass 0633
Kemble: arr. 0643, dep. 0645

which should fix that. I am guessing that a number of the other timing issues could be sorted with a small pathing allowance (p/a) so my current line of thinking would suggest the following:

2G82: Retime by about 1 minute (dep. Swindon 0939, pass LYJ 0941) with a ½ miunte p/a in at LYJ.
2G83: Retime by about 1 minute (dep. Swindon 1139, pass LYJ 1141) with a ½ miunte p/a in at LYJ.
2G85: ½ minute at Loco Yard Junction to allow 1L58 (an HST set) to clear the junction.
2G87: Retime by about 1 minute (dep. Swindon 1539, pass LYJ 1541) with a ½ miunte p/a in at LYJ.
1G60: Add ½ minute p/a to allow retimed 2O00 to clear junction.
2O00: Retime 2O00 to depart Kemble 1830 and run 3 earlier to Swindon.
2B97: Retime by about 1 minute to pass LYJ at 2057 and arrive Swindon 2102. **
1G88: p/a ½ minue at Loco Yard Jcn
2B99: p/a ½ minute at Kemble to allow 5B98 to get off the single track.

** I think a train is in 2B97's platform hence the 5 minute time between passing Loco Yard junction and arriving at Swindon.

Anyway that is what I think I might end up doing. Screenshot attached. Any thoughts on the above plan will be welcome.

Dave

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Forthcoming Timetables 01/09/2015 at 01:12 #75564
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Dave, (and also Tempe Meads and Kaiwhara)

Frankly I wouldn't touch anything. Perhaps include suggested regulation notes as part of any manual accompanying the sim. The sim may well be upgraded one day and you'll only then have to put it all back.

1G02 should depart SWI on time and wait at Loco Yard for 1L10 (it's one of the control "going home" trains and they'd be most annoyed if it left Swindon just 2 minutes after they finished work!), it may then end up running late from Kemble but should recover plenty of time en-route to Cheltenham.

Everything else can just be held at loco yard a moment or two with minimal impact to running, a little common sense being all that's required to maintain the train service.

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Forthcoming Timetables 01/09/2015 at 05:27 #75565
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Dave, (and also Tempe Meads and Kaiwhara)

Frankly I wouldn't touch anything. Perhaps include suggested regulation notes as part of any manual accompanying the sim. The sim may well be upgraded one day and you'll only then have to put it all back.

1G02 should depart SWI on time and wait at Loco Yard for 1L10 (it's one of the control "going home" trains and they'd be most annoyed if it left Swindon just 2 minutes after they finished work!), it may then end up running late from Kemble but should recover plenty of time en-route to Cheltenham.

Everything else can just be held at loco yard a moment or two with minimal impact to running, a little common sense being all that's required to maintain the train service.
Hi Guys

IIRC, I think only three pairs of trains actually conflicted, and what I have done is decided which train (based on the time of day) would be the "sacrificial lamb" and retimed that to suit, and was going to amend Gloucester to that effect. In all cases, Timings from Swindon towards Didcot were as per the timetable.

It would be extremely easy to put them all back, as per timetable, and let the user decide how to regulate them. As I say, it's only three conflicts across the whole day, and it was a problem I knew I would come across at some point.

I'm actually surprised there were not more trains affected than there were!

Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait!
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Forthcoming Timetables 01/09/2015 at 09:22 #75567
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Any update on any updates for Mac Sims?

Both Central Scotland and Edinburgh have changed a fair bit over the last few years. New lines opened and ongoing electrification.

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Forthcoming Timetables 01/09/2015 at 10:54 #75569
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Any update on any updates for Mac Sims?

Both Central Scotland and Edinburgh have changed a fair bit over the last few years. New lines opened and ongoing electrification.
According to this post and the ones following it, some of them are at the testing stage but Edinburgh is waiting for a core code problem to be fixed. I don't know if the update will include the new lines/electrification.

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Forthcoming Timetables 01/09/2015 at 12:31 #75570
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" said:
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Any update on any updates for Mac Sims?

Both Central Scotland and Edinburgh have changed a fair bit over the last few years. New lines opened and ongoing electrification.
According to this post and the ones following it, some of them are at the testing stage but Edinburgh is waiting for a core code problem to be fixed. I don't know if the update will include the new lines/electrification.
Cheers things are moving on at a rate here now. I travelled from Dunblane to Haymarket last week. All the old signals have all but gone. And the infrastructure for wires is moving quickly. And the Borders line starts any day now.

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Forthcoming Timetables 02/09/2015 at 16:27 #75597
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As for my SwinDid (Bathampton Junction) TT I think I will do two versions. Version 1 will contain the Kemble line TT as it ran IRL with the correct timings. Version 2, however, will contain the revised timetables where needed for the Kemble route.

I will release Version 2 for starters due to the track layout being as it currently stands, However if the track layout between Loco Yard Junction and Kemble is updated at some point in the future to include the additional track then I will release Version 1 in place of Version 2.

Dave

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Forthcoming Timetables 04/09/2015 at 11:40 #75627
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Quick update. I have delayed completion of my Bathampton Junction SwinDid TT due to an ongoing issue with it so I am instead working on fixing a few errors with its Westbury counterpart which I will now plan to release first.

Dave

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Forthcoming Timetables 04/09/2015 at 12:02 #75628
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" said:

Therefore I will have to hope for an update to include the extra track between Swindon and Kemble: if that doesn't happen then a release of this 458-train timetable, which I have spent a lot of my spare time in the last 3½ months working on, is unlikely. Slightly crushing tbh.

Dave
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Forthcoming Timetables 04/09/2015 at 18:21 #75635
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Wonder if I might be able to get hold of them if I asked the right person.

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Forthcoming Timetables 07/09/2015 at 18:31 #75694
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When Carlisle loader and the new 79-80 TT lands I will not be available for social engagements, marital obligations or indeed feeding myself for weeks. Nay, months.

The little bits Pascal has revealed so far have really whet the appetite!!! I've been checking every day for the last few weeks just in case but it seems we might be inching closer!

Thanks for your comments & I hope it doesn't let you down. All the formations of the loco hauled trains are now 100% correct as we have now been available to get copies of the Passenger Train marshalling Books for May 1979 - May 1980 , not only for the LMR, but also for the GE, ER & ScR as well so all the diverted traffic due to the Penamshiel Tunnel collapse are now as these books state & some formations are so out of the ordinary you'd have either have had to have witnessed them in real life at that time to get anywhere near the right formation such as 1S58 2230 ThO Ely - Stirling which is formed of:-
loco+5NJV(GUV)+5NXV((GUV)+BFK(Mk.1 brake)+2SLSTP(Mk.1 sleeper)+3FK(Mk.1 coaches) = 16. You'd be lucky to guess that formation from just the timing load in the WTT. That said John & I are struggling to get one final part of the jigsaw correct & that is the formation of the Parcel trains namely:-

3M07 0337 MX Parcels Stranraer Harbour - London Euston
3M15 2245 SX Parcels Glasgow Central - Nottingham
3M19 1930 SX Parcels Glasgow Parcels Station - London Euston
3M57 1733 SX Parcels Ayr - Carlisle
3S07 0250 EWD Mail Carlisle - Ayr
3S11 2059 MX Parcels London Euston - Glasgow Parcels Station
3S15 2027 SX Parcels Bristol Temple Meads - Glasgow Parcels Station
3S18 (div.) 2038 SX Parcels London KX FT - Edinburgh Waverley
3S24 2350 SX Parcels Nottingham - Glasgow Central
3V05 2053 SX Parcels Glasgow Parcels Station - Bristol Temple Meads
4A14 0305 MX Parcels Carlisle - London Euston
4J29 0305 MO Carlisle - Oldham Clegg St.
4M10 0015 MX Parcels Glasgow Central - Manchester Victoria
4S06 1750 MX Parcels Carlisle - Perth
4S14 19:10 SX Parcels Crewe South Yard - Glasgow Parcels Station
4S16 0513 EWD Parcels Carlisle - Glasgow Parcels Station
4S17 1257 MX Parcels Crewe South Yard - Glasgow Parcels Station
4S19 05:15 MX Parcels London Euston - Stranraer Harbour
6S09 2340 SX Parcels Carlisle - Stranraer Harbour
5M02 1150 MO Empty NPCCS Falkland Jn. - Carlisle Yard - This one is shown as D595, however the ScR WTT staes this train is worked by a Cl.25 & therefore would only be conveying approx. 5 or 6 vans as an educated guess.
The BR oficial books that give details of the formations of these trains are probably the rarest on record as no one I know or John who has asked ex collegues from the Post Office have any MLIs or associated Newspaper train formation books. I only know those I've worked during my time on the footplate & that is on the Midland Main Line. I've even had correspondence from the BR Coaching Stock group on Yahoo pretty much confirm the same thing. So I'm afraid to say at best at the moment these trains are going to be on a 'best guess' basis. The Passenger Train marshaling Books give details of the formations of Postal trains, but not parcel trains. So if anyone out there would have any info on that list of parcel trains & there respected formations please drop either John or me a message & we can then avoid the 'best guess' scenario for these trains. It's annoying to think we've got everything right apart from these trains.
Hi Pascal.

What news on Carlisle 79-80. It's all gone very quiet.

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Forthcoming Timetables 07/09/2015 at 18:52 #75696
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Hi Pascal.

What news on Carlisle 79-80. It's all gone very quiet. :)

To answer your question today I rcv'd in the post a missing WTT for thie Carlisle timetable which was the October, 1979-May, 1980 BR ScR Freight WTT Conditional. John has amended the timetable to reflect whats in that timetable. With regards to the Carlisle sim you'd best ask Tom how that's going cos for us he has gone quiet too, must be busy working no doubt. Me on the other hand I've been writing the Motherwell 1979-1980 timetable that will chain to Carlisle in due course & have been working on it pretty much every day now for a fortnight with the help of a Motherwell signaler who has been advising me on the movement of certain trains & associated shunt so the whole thing will be pretty much 100% accurate. The passenger train formations are now included in the passenger train descriptions as well as the freight services (I've attached a copy of the Motherwell 1979-1980 tt to this post if you want to download it & take a look, but remember its no where near finished yet. A long way to go). The best person to ask with regards to the Carlisle 1979-1980 timetable would be John(postal) as he is currently working on sorting out all the relevant shunt moves for the 3 station pilots over the 24 hour timetable period. But thanks for asking.

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Forthcoming Timetables 07/09/2015 at 19:01 #75697
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Thanks for the reply too. I forgot that we're also waiting for the Loader version of Carlisle. All we can do is wait ...
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Forthcoming Timetables 07/09/2015 at 21:06 #75705
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Of course, but still excellent to hear that the relentless drive for realism and accuracy in the 79/80 Carlisle TT is ongoing!

No other timetable puts you in the moment quite like it. Close your eyes and think of a London sleeper waiting in the station while the 08 nips back and forth, postal trains loading and containers squealing round Rome Street Jn. (But don't keep them closed for too long cos someone's bound to phone you from a red!)

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Forthcoming Timetables 07/09/2015 at 22:55 #75709
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Of course, but still excellent to hear that the relentless drive for realism and accuracy in the 79/80 Carlisle TT is ongoing!

No other timetable puts you in the moment quite like it. Close your eyes and think of a London sleeper waiting in the station while the 08 nips back and forth, postal trains loading and containers squealing round Rome Street Jn. (But don't keep them closed for too long cos someone's bound to phone you from a red!)
. . . and more work now going on because Pascal has got the Conditional Workings TT for the Gretna Jn - Dumfries section.

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Forthcoming Timetables 08/09/2015 at 01:10 #75710
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Keep up your good work John. :cheer:

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Forthcoming Timetables 15/09/2015 at 14:20 #75919
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A few updates from the South London writing bunker

Feltham April 2012
Testing completed, with a few bugs / errors (sim & tt) currently being investigated / resolved

Wimbledon April 2012
Writing completed (about 2700 trains) and testing is ongoing...a few minor tt errors to be rectified so far but nothing too major

Horsham April 2012 and Brighton & Lancing April 2012
Writing is ongoing with Horsham, Brighton & Lancing written up to 15:00 hrs so far.


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Forthcoming Timetables 15/09/2015 at 14:39 #75920
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It's been a while since I've done a write-up. Projects in development:

Aston 2015

Freight needs re-writing, other than that it's ready to go.

Stafford 2015

In the testing stage, currently up to 07:50. When released, this timetable will complete my West Midlands 2015 set.

Cambridge 2015

GN, XC and LE services written, EM and freight still to do.

North East Scotland Loco-Hauled (Fictional)

Passenger and mail services are entered, along with most freight. Trip freights still to do. Development suspended until NE Scot is updated to use the Loader. This is partly due to simulation bugs in the .exe, but also because I'd like to make use of the new 'Decisions' feature to add some replay value.

Possible Future Projects

I have the data for a 2015 timetable for Walsall, and I plan to write it when the Walsall simulation is released. This will be compatible with my existing West Midlands set.

Nothing else at the moment.

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Forthcoming Timetables 01/10/2015 at 17:18 #76410
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Following Paul's (DriverCurran) release of Oxted, with an era option with extended platforms, there will be an April 2012 timetable on the horizon (usual timescales)


April 2012 TT series

Feltham - Correcting a few tt bugs and working best workarounds for a couple of sim bugs (nothing serious)

Wimbledon - Undergoing testing - few bugs (tt & sim noticed but hopefully easily rectified)

Horsham - Written up to 3pm sim time

Brighton - Written up to 3pm sim time

Lancing - Written up to 3pm sim time

Oxted - To be written soon

Victoria Central - Released but will undergo update to use UIDs

Victoria Eastern - Released but will undergo update to use UIDs

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Forthcoming Timetables 18/10/2015 at 07:41 #77002
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Saltley and Derby 4-day timetables for October 2015 will begin testing shortly, and will be uploaded once that is complete - please bear in mind it's a 98 hour run from start to finish so this will take longer than usual!
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Forthcoming Timetables 23/10/2015 at 16:23 #77178
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Looking forward to your 2012 Wimbledon TT TimTamToe, still waiting for this to be released

My Carlisle Saturday 19th September TT is under testing.

I also have made a start of my Wimbledon Sunday 4th October 2015 TT, which is 24hr so includes the Saturday night stuff with Twickenham extra's, and on the Sunday itself there is engineering work in the Barnes area so all Reading's are diverted via Kingston. I don't have Feltham sim just yet but I have saved the RealTimeTrains data for the Sunday so it can chain with Wimbledon.

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