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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 10/12/2018 at 19:50 #113892
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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 11/12/2018 at 14:13 #113910
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Mikehax in post 113874 said:
Having spent the last four nights working the Hertford WS I'm pleased that the transition from KX has gone smoothly and pretty much everything is working as it is supposed to. The only down side being I'm sat at the only pod in this sub ROC with anything in it as the other 6 await the transfer of panels from KX and part of Peterborough - it's like being back in a single manned location.
So at the moment you have the situation where you're managing the Hertford Loop in York ROC as a island basically with Kings Cross still controlling the fringes and you're miles away? Sounds surreal for now until the other Kings Cross panels move.

And any calls from the signals in that area go straight to York ROC not Kings Cross PSB anymore?

The other thing I'm wondering about is when Kings Cross does move, not sure if they're doing it panel by panel - is there any order in which they're going to do that?

As a example do they start with Panel 1 or Panel 5?

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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 11/12/2018 at 21:19 #113914
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ajax103 in post 113910 said:


So at the moment you have the situation where you're managing the Hertford Loop in York ROC as a island basically with Kings Cross still controlling the fringes and you're miles away? Sounds surreal for now until the other Kings Cross panels move.

And any calls from the signals in that area go straight to York ROC not Kings Cross PSB anymore?

The other thing I'm wondering about is when Kings Cross does move, not sure if they're doing it panel by panel - is there any order in which they're going to do that?

As a example do they start with Panel 1 or Panel 5?
Calls from SPTs and GSMR calls from trains at signals on the workstation come to York ROC.

AFAIK, the plan is for Panels 3, 4 & 5 (re-control only) to migrate next year with Panels 1 and 2 (re-signalling and re-control) moving the following year.

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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 12/12/2018 at 10:25 #113920
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So when the likes of Hertford North have to call the signaller as they have to as part of their daily duties, they're actually talking to someone in York?
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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 12/12/2018 at 13:25 #113922
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ajax103 in post 113920 said:
So when the likes of Hertford North have to call the signaller as they have to as part of their daily duties, they're actually talking to someone in York?
If that is where the signaller is, then yes

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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 12/12/2018 at 14:05 #113923
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ajax103 in post 113920 said:
So when the likes of Hertford North have to call the signaller as they have to as part of their daily duties, they're actually talking to someone in York?
As soon as you get away from having a local box where the signalman looks out of a window it ceases to be relevant where the box is. They could off-shore it to Bangalore like Virgin Media. Though not quite sure how drivers would take to signalers insisting on reading the script first and then being asked to climb the gantry to check the signal is plugged in and what the lights are doing before S&T can be called.

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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 12/12/2018 at 15:11 #113925
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Peter Bennet in post 113923 said:
ajax103 in post 113920 said:
So when the likes of Hertford North have to call the signaller as they have to as part of their daily duties, they're actually talking to someone in York?
As soon as you get away from having a local box where the signalman looks out of a window it ceases to be relevant where the box is. They could off-shore it to Bangalore like Virgin Media. Though not quite sure how drivers would take to signalers insisting on reading the script first and then being asked to climb the gantry to check the signal is plugged in and what the lights are doing before S&T can be called.

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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 26/08/2019 at 21:30 #120214
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I believe New Barnet to Biggleswade and Royston is now on workstations in York ROC since the Bank Holiday weekend.
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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 26/08/2019 at 21:59 #120215
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Giantray in post 120214 said:
I believe New Barnet to Biggleswade and Royston is now on workstations in York ROC since the Bank Holiday weekend.

According to OpenTrainTimes live maps the boundaries between Kings Cross PSB and York ROC are:
- Up Lines: Just prior to Oakleigh Park with K506 & K508 being York ROC's exit signals
- Down Lines: just on the KGX side of Wood Green Tunnel with K475 & K477 being the first signals for York ROC
https://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/ecm1

The boundary point on OTT's Royston map still has "K" instead of York ROC, as does the Peterborough map so I don't know what the boundaries are on those lines.

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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 26/08/2019 at 23:28 #120218
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According to OTT's twitter account, the updating is work in progress.

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Kings Cross - Hertford Loop signalling workstation - migrating to York ROC 27/08/2019 at 12:49 #120223
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The below area will be controlled by LNE South Sub-ROC from 0530 on Monday 26th August.

Wood Green workstation

ECML between New Barnet at 5m 10ch to Hatfield at 18m 20ch.
The Hertford Branch between Palmers Green 6m 0ch to Molewood Tunnel 20m 0ch

Langley workstation

ECML between Hatfield at 18m 20ch to Wymondley at 30m 20ch
The Hertford Branch between Molewood Junction at 20m 0ch to Langley Junction at 28m 0ch.

Hitchin workstation

ECML between Wymondley at 30m 20ch to Biggleswade North at 43m 0ch.
Cambridge Branch from Cambridge Jcn 32m 11ch to Royston at 46m 0ch

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