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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 17:43 #139369
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Hi all

For all those that haven't heard of this yet, here's the BBC article.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57036247

From other forums, there was a yaw damper issue on the new 195s (I think) last week. Some GWR 800s stopped too.

This is apparently on the body shell. Another forum spoke of the jacking points.

When was the last time a whole class was withdrawn? For some reason, I thought of the Britannias.

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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 18:01 #139370
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03piggs in post 139369 said:

From other forums, there was a yaw damper issue on the new 195s (I think) last week. Some GWR 800s stopped too.
The yaw damper issues are affecting CAF units (believe some 195s and 331s stopped currently, with 397s and Mk 5s also being monitored). (EDIT: Have now seen that Hitachi also had yaw damper issues last week...)

Bodyshell issues have seen the entire Hitachi 80x fleets stopped today. It appears the bulk of the affected sets are with GWR.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 18:34 #139373
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03piggs in post 139369 said:
Hi all

For all those that haven't heard of this yet, here's the BBC article.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57036247

From other forums, there was a yaw damper issue on the new 195s (I think) last week. Some GWR 800s stopped too.

This is apparently on the body shell. Another forum spoke of the jacking points.

When was the last time a whole class was withdrawn? For some reason, I thought of the Britannias.

Stu
The Class 91s (or more precisely the MK4 coaches) after the Sandy wheel failure incident in1998

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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 18:50 #139374
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I think it might have been the Class 89 Avocet 😂
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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 18:54 #139375
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The wessex EMUs were temporarily withdrawn when they kept tripping track circuits on adjacent lines weren't they?

What are GWR doing about a lack of stock, just cancelling everything?

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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 19:13 #139376
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jc92 in post 139375 said:
What are GWR doing about a lack of stock, just cancelling everything?
That's been the approach so far. Various rumours online about plans for other TOCs to provide cover where possible, stretching the 387/DMU/2+4 HST fleets, contacting charter operators etc. I don't think anything has been confirmed as yet.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 19:41 #139377
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Good excuse to bring back loco hauled workings with some Cl.47/4s & Cl.37/4s & such like. Far more reliable.
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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 19:44 #139378
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03piggs in post 139369 said:
Hi all

For all those that haven't heard of this yet, here's the BBC article.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57036247

From other forums, there was a yaw damper issue on the new 195s (I think) last week. Some GWR 800s stopped too.

This is apparently on the body shell. Another forum spoke of the jacking points.

When was the last time a whole class was withdrawn? For some reason, I thought of the Britannias.

Stu
The entire 1992 Tube Stock fleet of London Underground was grounded following the 2003 Chancery Lane derailment.

This included the so-called 'Class 482s' on the Waterloo & City Line.

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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 20:19 #139379
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jc92 in post 139375 said:


What are GWR doing about a lack of stock, just cancelling everything?
Following the 1998 Sandy derailment, WAGN loaned some 317s (ouch!) to GNER which (from memory) reached at least Leeds or York.

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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 20:33 #139381
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Looks like some LNER services are now running again. All the reports point to fatigue cracking which will be usage related so the impact is likely to be greater on the GWR sets as they came into service before the LNER sets.
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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 20:54 #139382
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From The Bash Mash:


"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 22:00 #139383
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[quote=jc92;post=139375]The wessex EMUs were temporarily withdrawn when they kept tripping track circuits on adjacent lines weren't they?

I remember a Bobbie from Liverpool Street who said the 90s when tested after introduction out of Liverpool Street they blew the OLE circuits. (This was after they were built, not after they moved from the wcml)

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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 23:23 #139384
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58050 in post 139377 said:
Good excuse to bring back loco hauled workings with some Cl.47/4s & Cl.37/4s & such like. Far more reliable.
Yes I remember how "far more reliable" 37/4s were versus 156s.

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IET Withdrawal 08/05/2021 at 23:50 #139385
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headshot119 in post 139384 said:
58050 in post 139377 said:
Good excuse to bring back loco hauled workings with some Cl.47/4s & Cl.37/4s & such like. Far more reliable.
Yes I remember how "far more reliable" 37/4s were versus 156s.
Perhaps it aligns to this Wikipedia page.

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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 07:49 #139390
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58050 in post 139377 said:
Good excuse to bring back loco hauled workings with some Cl.47/4s & Cl.37/4s & such like. Far more reliable.
There's a few Deltics out there looking for a good thrash up & down the ECML too. Quite apart from borrowing an A4 or two :-)

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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 09:27 #139392
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58050 in post 139377 said:
Good excuse to bring back loco hauled workings with some Cl.47/4s & Cl.37/4s & such like. Far more reliable.
A brilliant idea but, sadly, none of us sign them any more! LOL

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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 09:43 #139393
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I suspect the coaches would be an issue more than the locos too, ie not being enough about
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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 09:54 #139394
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Well if all this carries on into the next couple of weeks, I hear there may be a few hst sets free of the Midland........

.......Well one lives in hope.....

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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 14:50 #139398
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postal in post 139381 said:
Looks like some LNER services are now running again. All the reports point to fatigue cracking which will be usage related so the impact is likely to be greater on the GWR sets as they came into service before the LNER sets.
LNER had started running services from quite early on Saturday morning.

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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 15:41 #139399
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andyallen4014 in post 139398 said:
postal in post 139381 said:
Looks like some LNER services are now running again. All the reports point to fatigue cracking which will be usage related so the impact is likely to be greater on the GWR sets as they came into service before the LNER sets.
LNER had started running services from quite early on Saturday morning.
. . . and according to various news reports anticipate that the full fleet will have been examined by this evening. How many are stopped as a result of the examination is a different matter.

“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe
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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 16:03 #139400
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We've got some up here according to Edinburgh's finest railway newspaper reporter.
How to report an issue: www.SimSig.co.uk/Wiki/Show?page=usertrack:reportanissue
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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 16:07 #139401
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postal in post 139399 said:
andyallen4014 in post 139398 said:
postal in post 139381 said:
Looks like some LNER services are now running again. All the reports point to fatigue cracking which will be usage related so the impact is likely to be greater on the GWR sets as they came into service before the LNER sets.
LNER had started running services from quite early on Saturday morning.
. . . and according to various news reports anticipate that the full fleet will have been examined by this evening. How many are stopped as a result of the examination is a different matter.
A number have been stopped, however it seems the majority of LNER sets aren't affected. They are, however, bringing their remaining Mk 4 sets back into service a month earlier than planned. They've been in warm store since the start of January.

"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 16:27 #139404
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kbarber in post 139390 said:


There's a few Deltics out there looking for a good thrash up & down the ECML too. Quite apart from borrowing an A4 or two :-)
If they're going up and down the ECML, I guess they're a little lost for Booths of Sheffield

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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 16:34 #139406
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Steamer in post 139401 said:
postal in post 139399 said:
andyallen4014 in post 139398 said:
postal in post 139381 said:
Looks like some LNER services are now running again. All the reports point to fatigue cracking which will be usage related so the impact is likely to be greater on the GWR sets as they came into service before the LNER sets.
LNER had started running services from quite early on Saturday morning.
. . . and according to various news reports anticipate that the full fleet will have been examined by this evening. How many are stopped as a result of the examination is a different matter.
A number have been stopped, however it seems the majority of LNER sets aren't affected. They are, however, bringing their remaining Mk 4 sets back into service a month earlier than planned. They've been in warm store since the start of January.
limited to KGX/Leeds/York due to crew restraints.

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IET Withdrawal 09/05/2021 at 19:32 #139409
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pedroathome in post 139404 said:

Booths of Sheffield
That is incitement of the highest order :)

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