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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 30/03/2018 at 20:08 #107123
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This thread is for discussion of the Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 timetable.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 30/03/2018 at 21:31 #107130
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6M37 is seeded at RJ31 (Hyde North) but has the locations from Ash Bridge Jn to Hyde Jn still in its TT. This train is already past these locations so should have Woodley as the Start Location
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 30/03/2018 at 21:37 #107131
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3027 posts 		There's an inconsistency between the Manchester East 08/04/2015 set and the Manchester North one. East has the Drax- Liverpool trains that run via Rochdale, North doesn't.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 30/03/2018 at 21:39 #107132
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888 posts 		y10g9 in post 107130 said:
0400 Start TT
6M37 is seeded at RJ31 (Hyde North) but has the locations from Ash Bridge Jn to Hyde Jn still in its TT. This train is already past these locations so should have Woodley as the Start Location
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 30/03/2018 at 21:40 #107134
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888 posts 		Steamer in post 107131 said:
There's an inconsistency between the Manchester East 08/04/2015 set and the Manchester North one. East has the Drax- Liverpool trains that run via Rochdale, North doesn't.
Manchester North is due an Update at a later date
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 30/03/2018 at 21:46 #107135
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619 posts 		Steamer in post 107131 said:
There's an inconsistency between the Manchester East 08/04/2015 set and the Manchester North one. East has the Drax- Liverpool trains that run via Rochdale, North doesn't.
I hope to have a full North update complete tomorrow and out by tomorrow night
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 31/03/2018 at 01:42 #107138
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16 posts 		6M04 reports wrong route after Stalybridge P3 when routed onto the Up Ashton. It appears that the train is timetabled to run the Up Ashton to Manchester North via Baguley Fold Jnc, and then reenter on the Down Ashburys to enter Guide Bridge Yard via the Up Main.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 31/03/2018 at 01:57 #107139
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888 posts 		zachpratt in post 107138 said:
6M04 reports wrong route after Stalybridge P3 when routed onto the Up Ashton. It appears that the train is timetabled to run the Up Ashton to Manchester North via Baguley Fold Jnc, and then reenter on the Down Ashburys to enter Guide Bridge Yard via the Up Main.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 31/03/2018 at 12:22 #107142
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Online 		MarkC in post 107139 said:
zachpratt in post 107138 said:
6M04 reports wrong route after Stalybridge P3 when routed onto the Up Ashton. It appears that the train is timetabled to run the Up Ashton to Manchester North via Baguley Fold Jnc, and then reenter on the Down Ashburys to enter Guide Bridge Yard via the Up Main.
Confirmed, Mantis #0020055
Just fixed. An update will be made available later. Apologies for the issue.

James.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 31/03/2018 at 18:59 #107150
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16 posts 		No need to apologize! It's a great piece of work.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 31/03/2018 at 21:07 #107152
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Online 		Simulation and timetable updates now available via check for updates.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 01/04/2018 at 01:54 #107167
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425 posts 		5D40 0436 Newton Heath - Piccadilly does not ring in from Guide Bridge Up & Dn Loop after changing ends to report that he is ready for departure towards Piccadilly.


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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 01/04/2018 at 05:29 #107170
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619 posts 		No Fault found in TT Phil - Please guys try and keep reports to the correct threads.

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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 01/04/2018 at 12:45 #107183
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425 posts 		Meld in post 107170 said:
No Fault found in TT Phil - Please guys try and keep reports to the correct threads.

Cheers
Apologies, reposted in the sim thread.

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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 01/04/2018 at 16:28 #107188
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194 posts 		pedroathome in post 107142 said:
MarkC in post 107139 said:
zachpratt in post 107138 said:
6M04 reports wrong route after Stalybridge P3 when routed onto the Up Ashton. It appears that the train is timetabled to run the Up Ashton to Manchester North via Baguley Fold Jnc, and then reenter on the Down Ashburys to enter Guide Bridge Yard via the Up Main.
Confirmed, Mantis #0020055
Just fixed. An update will be made available later. Apologies for the issue.

James.
James - does the fix also address any issues with moves the other way round (clockwise from Guide Bridge to Ashburys/ Baguley Fold/ Stalybridge/ Diggle)?
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 01/04/2018 at 17:06 #107190
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Online 		I’ve not long run 6E06 round that route on the default TT and he was more than happy.

Have also rerun my save games that had the wrong route at Stalybridge and the signal not clearing at Baguley Fold Jn and both have worked fine
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 01/04/2018 at 18:49 #107197
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Online 		whatlep in post 107188 said:
pedroathome in post 107142 said:
MarkC in post 107139 said:
zachpratt in post 107138 said:
6M04 reports wrong route after Stalybridge P3 when routed onto the Up Ashton. It appears that the train is timetabled to run the Up Ashton to Manchester North via Baguley Fold Jnc, and then reenter on the Down Ashburys to enter Guide Bridge Yard via the Up Main.
Confirmed, Mantis #0020055
Just fixed. An update will be made available later. Apologies for the issue.

James.
James - does the fix also address any issues with moves the other way round (clockwise from Guide Bridge to Ashburys/ Baguley Fold/ Stalybridge/ Diggle)?

Yes, or at least should do. Going to AMN, it must have AMN as the next location, going to Guide Bridge, it must have Guide Bridge, or any of the appropiate reversing locations on either route

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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 01/04/2018 at 20:53 #107202
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106 posts 		Hi james.
OH55 enters at New Mills Central at 01:43 bound for Guide Bridge Yard.arr 02:22.

6H55 rings out of yard at 02:12 running early dep due at 02:36.

It needs correcting so that the LE gets to the yard first!

Great sim,many thanks.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 02/04/2018 at 09:36 #107211
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619 posts 		I've added rules for this and a few others at Guide Bridge & Bredbury will be available in the next TT update (will give it till the weekend in case anything else crops up during the week)

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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 02/04/2018 at 15:55 #107219
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215 posts 		6H43 appears, approaching Ashburys on the Down Asnbury due to arrive Ashburys at 0814 and depart at 0836
towards Guide Bridge. If I put 6H43 in the platform at 0814, there are four passenger trains to pass it, 2H64, 2H56, 1P16 & 2H81.

How is this supposed to work? Not knowing the area, does 6H43 go into Ashbury Arrivals, schedule doesn't show this?
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 02/04/2018 at 16:09 #107220
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2729 posts 		Giantray in post 107219 said:
6H43 appears, approaching Ashburys on the Down Asnbury due to arrive Ashburys at 0814 and depart at 0836
towards Guide Bridge. If I put 6H43 in the platform at 0814, there are four passenger trains to pass it, 2H64, 2H56, 1P16 & 2H81.

How is this supposed to work? Not knowing the area, does 6H43 go into Ashbury Arrivals, schedule doesn't show this?
It should sit at the signal in rear protecting the junction until 0836.

As an aside (albeit on the wrong thread) i need to report that this train never called in at the signal in question to say it was waiting despite the fact it was sat there for 15 mins and it hadnt reached the correct stopping point.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 02/04/2018 at 16:27 #107222
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215 posts 		jc92 in post 107220 said:


It should sit at the signal in rear protecting the junction until 0836.

As an aside (albeit on the wrong thread) i need to report that this train never called in at the signal in question to say it was waiting despite the fact it was sat there for 15 mins and it hadnt reached the correct stopping point.
Thank you for this. Also I sat 6H43 at the same signal until 0836 and it arrived there at 0807. Do they not ringin there?
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 02/04/2018 at 16:29 #107224
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215 posts 		Sorry posted on wrong forum in error, put on correct forum.
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 02/04/2018 at 16:34 #107226
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888 posts 		Giantray in post 107222 said:
jc92 in post 107220 said:


It should sit at the signal in rear protecting the junction until 0836.

As an aside (albeit on the wrong thread) i need to report that this train never called in at the signal in question to say it was waiting despite the fact it was sat there for 15 mins and it hadnt reached the correct stopping point.
Thank you for this. Also I sat 6H43 at the same signal until 0836 and it arrived there at 0807. Do they not ringin there?
What is the signal number where the train does not call?
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Manchester East SX 08 04 2015 02/04/2018 at 17:03 #107228
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619 posts 		jc92 in post 107220 said:
Giantray in post 107219 said:
6H43 appears, approaching Ashburys on the Down Asnbury due to arrive Ashburys at 0814 and depart at 0836
towards Guide Bridge. If I put 6H43 in the platform at 0814, there are four passenger trains to pass it, 2H64, 2H56, 1P16 & 2H81.

How is this supposed to work? Not knowing the area, does 6H43 go into Ashbury Arrivals, schedule doesn't show this?
It should sit at the signal in rear protecting the junction until 0836.

As an aside (albeit on the wrong thread) i need to report that this train never called in at the signal in question to say it was waiting despite the fact it was sat there for 15 mins and it hadnt reached the correct stopping point.
Joe is correct, this sits at AS894 to prevent delays to other services.

Clicking the TD upon entry you will find that the Notes button is active, which gives instructions on how to deal with it
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