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Multiple screens 08/11/2020 at 21:26 #133713
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Thanks Hawk. I've checked your link and it looks interesting. I would only connect to 1 or 2 monitors at most so a physical connection might be better.
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Multiple screens 08/11/2020 at 21:38 #133714
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My graphics card supports 4 monitors (has 4 monitor outputs).
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Multiple screens 08/11/2020 at 23:08 #133724
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ambergatesm in post 133711 said:
Forgive my ignorance Albert, but what is a USB - C Docking station?
That's a device which plugs into your laptop with 1 cable, and then it charges the laptop AND provides a lot of ports for devices, usually multiple video outputs, USB, network and audio.

They are mostly used with Macs because those tend to have very few ports on them nowadays, but with Windows laptops they're also useful.

I have this one for my Thinkpad laptop: https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/accessories/acc100348-thinkpad-usb-c-dock-overview-and-service-parts

It also mostly works with my work laptop (a Dell). I just need to use the power button on the laptop itself to turn it on as the power button on the dock only works with compatible Lenovo laptops.

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Multiple screens 09/11/2020 at 10:41 #133729
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Thanks Albert. I have had a quick look on the Lenovo website and I think I will find a solution there. Thanks to all of you who have offered advice and suggestions.
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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 08:31 #135456
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Jan in post 133605 said:
Right click some empty bit of the sim area, choose "Save Bitmap". Note down the width and height given there, then multiply the width by 8 and the height by 16. The result is the size of the simulation layout in pixels, so you should be able to work out from that how many monitors you need to fit the whole sim without scrolling

Save Bitmap
Width 1358
Height 52

Calculation
Width 10864
Height 832

Two monitors
1600 x 900

When I scroll left to right, I get seven views
This matches the above

However I still cannot get the window to resize to half the height

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 08:39 #135457
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DaveHarries in post 133681 said:
As one or two others have shown I simply split the combined screen width into two as seen here during a quiet period on an LTS mutiplayer. The screens here are 2x NEC MultiSync E223W which are 22-inch (1680x1050 pixels).


Yes, that is what I am trying to setup

Instead I end up with this


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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 10:33 #135462
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I dont mind scrolling horizontally in a sim but I find scroll up and down vertically quite annoying. A few of the sims just do not fit vertically on the screen and its very easy to miss actions when hidden from time to time on the screen. Is there a way of solving this problem ?
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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 10:39 #135463
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Do you have an HD screen?

The majority of sims will fit within the height of one, some won’t however.

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 11:32 #135466
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Stephen Fulcher in post 135463 said:
Do you have an HD screen?

Four screens
1600 x 900 - 1920 x 1080 - 1920 x 1080 - 1600 x 900

It does not matter which of them I use, I end up with the same

I am currently testing two screens
1600 x 900 - 1600 x 900

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 11:46 #135467
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Ray in post 135462 said:
I dont mind scrolling horizontally in a sim but I find scroll up and down vertically quite annoying. A few of the sims just do not fit vertically on the screen and its very easy to miss actions when hidden from time to time on the screen. Is there a way of solving this problem ?
I had this problem with some sims, especially Tyneside but have found a way to overcome it, quite by accident. Now, I'm not saying that this will work for everybody, but it's worth a try.
I have a laptop between two monitors and sims open on the middle (laptop) screen. Once the sim has fully loaded, I grab the left-hand edge of the display and drag it partially across the monitor screen on the left (see screenshot). I then place the curser in the white band at the top of the image in the left-hand monitor and drag it downwards so that it is nearly off the bottom of the screen. For some unknown reason when I drag the image back upwards the depth of the layout has reduced. At this point you can see that some of the sim layout below Newcastle Station is not on the screen, I then drag the left and right-hand edges until the sim fits across the three displays.
Finally, I just drag the bottom edge downwards until I can see the depth of the whole sim (screenshot 3). I always do all of this in the same order as I have found that if I change the order it doesn't work.

I quite often do this with most sims as it gives me more room on which to fit the various message boxes, etc..

I'd be interested to know if this works for you too :)






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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 12:39 #135469
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mjkerr in post 135457 said:

Yes, that is what I am trying to setup

Instead I end up with this

Dave's picture is showing Fenchurch Street, which needs much less vertical space than Carlisle station. Also, he is stretching windows over both monitors.

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 13:21 #135470
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For the few sims over 1080 high, one option is vertical monitors. As 'less than HD' are now quite cheap, an array of 900x1600 might work quite well.
Some find that setup is also handy for code or reading A4 documents.

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 18:01 #135480
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Albert in post 135469 said:
he is stretching windows over both monitors

That is what I do
I have only provided the screenshot to show what it should like
The line should then run across the upper two halves, then the lower two halves

However the window height will not adjust as described

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 19:35 #135485
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You have four windows in your screenshot instead of two. You need just two windows, an upper and a lower one both with the width of two monitors, if you want the line to run across.

And which window's height do you mean?

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 19:51 #135486
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Albert in post 135485 said:
You have four windows in your screenshot instead of two. You need just two windows, an upper and a lower one both with the width of two monitors, if you want the line to run across.

And which window's height do you mean?

As above, the screen shot is an example only

Yes, I have one window, then extend to the right so that it is spread across both monitors
Click on New View and repeat the process
As per the screen shot I should now have the four visible windows, spread across two monitors

However that is not what happens

Window height was referred to by instruction, to save bitmap then calculate number of screens
Is that the one you mean?

The other window height is what I see on the screen, it appears to be about 800px

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Multiple screens 28/12/2020 at 20:36 #135490
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When you extend the view window across 2 screens, this is still just 1 window so it will scroll as 1 window not 2 separate windows
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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 09:09 #135498
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y10g9 in post 135490 said:
When you extend the view window across 2 screens, this is still just 1 window so it will scroll as 1 window not 2 separate windows

Yes, I already have that
Sadly you do not appear to have understood what I am trying to achieve, with four windows on two monitors

I have therefore managed to create a more accurate view of what I am trying to achieve


I have two sets of pairs of monitors
1600 x 900 - 1600 x 900
and
1920 x 1080 - 1920 x 1080

However it does not matter what I do I cannot resize the view window and as a result it scrolls off the bottom of the screen!

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 09:13 #135499
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Scroll required to view lower half of view


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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 09:22 #135500
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Do you mean you want to 'zoom out' on the panel to have a larger part of it in your screen at a time?

You may be able to achieve that by changing your monitor scaling in the display settings. I think bugsy has two different scaling settings for his two monitors, and the sim adapts to the left one if it extends more than halfway across the boundary (or, Windows shrinks the sim. Whether SimSig is aware of Windows scaling, I don't know.) However this will make *all* programs on that monitor smaller, not just SimSig.

Otherwise, use Shift + scroll wheel to operate the vertical scroll bar.

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 09:31 #135502
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I'm really confused here. The Carlisle sim has a height of about 832 pixels at minimum so i you wanted to put stack two views vertically you would need at least 1664 pixels of height on your monitors. From reading, you have monitors that are either 1600 x 900 or 1920 x 1080, neither of which have enough vertical pixels to stack 2 Carlisle views vertically.

You can grab the bottom right corner of the view window and move it upwards so that not the whole view is visible, in which case you'll get a vertical stroll bar that you can adjust to which part of the view you want visible.

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 09:35 #135503
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As I said, I assume bugsy is (maybe accidentally) taking advantage of scaling. You can tell Windows to scale all programs on a certain monitor to 75% or 125% of their size and a few other round numbers - this is used for small monitors with a large resolution.

Whether a program correctly displays when scaled is another question; in bugsy's screenshot it takes the scaling setting of one monitor when it's extended across both.

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 11:02 #135506
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swiftaw in post 135502 said:
You can grab the bottom right corner of the view window and move it upwards so that not the whole view is visible, in which case you'll get a vertical stroll bar that you can adjust to which part of the view you want visible

This is really annoying as I am having to continually scroll up and down
I was hoping I could reduce the height of the window

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 11:05 #135507
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Albert in post 135503 said:
Windows to scale all programs on a certain monitor to 75% or 125% of their size and a few other round numbers - this is used for small monitors with a large resolution

Windows is set at 100%
The only other options are 110% and 125%, and these increase the size rather than decrease it

Sadly it looks like I will have no choice but to use one window and continually scroll up and down

However, I still do not understand why there is a mismatch
The simulation has a height of about 850px
This is less than the monitor dimensions

I have checked the graphics card and the settings are correct there too
1600 x 900 / 1920 x 1080

As above, you can see that Carlisle station disappears off the bottom of the screen!

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 11:17 #135508
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I'm completely lost here.

Do you have two monitors, or four?

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Multiple screens 29/12/2020 at 11:41 #135509
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Steamer in post 135508 said:
Do you have two monitors, or four?

Both

1600 x 900 - 1600 x 900
1920 x 1080 - 1920 x 1080

I only use two monitors at any one time

I am about to swap to four monitors
1600 x 900 - 1920 x 1080 - 1920 x 1080 - 1600 x 900

The outer monitors (1600 x 900) will be used to display spreadsheets
The inner monitors (1920 x 1080), adjacent to each other, will display SimSig
The plan was to use these two monitors to have four views, as above

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