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| East London Line 11/04/2010 at 12:23 #8381 | |
Hooverman
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Hello all. I was working that day at TBASC, when the shadow service ran for a couple of hours. Total chaos, more trains than track to run them on. Something I think we are going to have to get used to. The turn back siding was brought into use at West Croydon on the afternoon of Wednesday 31st March, with some restrictions. S&T for the project signed it over at Sunday 27th March at about 05:00hrs. The 1st train to use it went in there about 13:20ish on the 31st but I forget the ID of the train. At the same time a traction return fault occurred preventing the use of T1048 shunt signal, gain one loose one lol. Darren Log in to reply |
| East London Line 11/04/2010 at 14:32 #8388 | |
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tgb
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Hi Darren, Why is the exit signal from the turnback a normal signal and not a ground position light ? As you round the curve from Waddon on a single yellow by the tram bridge to enter West Croydon you get a moment of panic as the red at the end of the turnback comes into view. It will take a while to realise that this signal is for the turnback and not the running line! Seems a strange way of doing things! Tony PS Does the green aspect actually work on T71 at East Croydon - haven't seen it for nearly a year, the damn thing is ALWAYS red (well, occaisionally single yellow  )
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| East London Line 11/04/2010 at 15:31 #8393 | |
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Hooverman
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Hello Tony, I take it when your approaching T71 your on a down 1CXX. if that is the case then this might explain. Since Southern changed their timetable all the offpeak up East Grinsteads 2LXX cross over platform 4 to Fast Reversible in front of the Down 1CXXs. There is not enough overlap on your next signal T95, so we have to set the route T71 to T95 in reduced overlap ROL, which means that T71 becomes approach controlled. As for the new T34 becoming a normal signal, not got a clue, but it's just like T10 on the Norwood Folk Arrival Road and T18 on the Gullet, and it works the same way as well when we set it. Set main aspect to main aspect but only sets a ROL. Darren Log in to reply |
| East London Line 11/04/2010 at 18:48 #8408 | |
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tgb
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Darren, Yeh, have notice the up Grinnys crossing in fromt - we usually pick up 2 yellows at Thornton Heath. If on a 2CXX then we always sit at T71 waiting for the usually late Worst Capital Connect to come from the Down London Bridge fast in front of us.... I don;t know who decided on T34 but it doesn't seem to be 'best working practice' to use their usual term ! Tony Log in to reply |
| East London Line 12/04/2010 at 18:24 #8439 | |
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Hooverman
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Signalled My first ELL train into and out of West Croydon turn back siding today. dabadaz Log in to reply |
| East London Line 12/04/2010 at 18:44 #8440 | |
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tgb
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Oh, wasn't sure it was in use - it has a sleeper laid across the small headshunt and in the siding near the 4 car stop mark with STOP boards on top... Worst Capital Connect strikes again today - one failed at Sutton and left me sitting outside for 25 minutes... grrr... Tony Log in to reply |
| East London Line 12/04/2010 at 19:06 #8444 | |
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Hooverman
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Hello Tony That would be part of the restrictions they brought in, to get the siding up and running, only trains of no more than 4 coaches, can use it, and they have to be LOROL training trips. I believe the buffer stops are not off the correct type, to prevent a run away ending up on the Up or Down Wallington lines, should it ever happen. dabbadaz Log in to reply |
| East London Line 12/04/2010 at 20:04 #8451 | |
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Vitesse
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There is a PLB in the turnback still
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| East London Line 12/04/2010 at 21:25 #8452 | |
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TL DRIVER
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tgb said:Yeh, have notice the up Grinnys crossing in fromt - we usually pick up 2 yellows at Thornton Heath. If on a 2CXX then we always sit at T71 waiting for the usually late Worst Capital Connect to come from the Down London Bridge fast in front of us.... it used to be the other way around, we would wait at T87 for a down express to pass, before following it into east croydon, but for once we get the road ahead off a southern. tgb said: Worst Capital Connect strikes again today - one failed at Sutton and left me sitting outside for 25 minutes... grrr...thats not bad lol, a few months back doing a loop i left sutton on a single yellow heading towards west sutton, got a red at the bottom off the bank (bear in mind 99.9% of the time all you see is greens) , after 2 minutes call up vic box only to be told, a 455 had failed in wimbledon platform with a compressor fault, and that trains were on block all the way to wimbledon and to obey all aspects, cue red - green -yellow - red, all the way arriving over an hour late. Log in to reply |
| East London Line 12/04/2010 at 22:57 #8453 | |
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UKTrainMan
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Vitesse said:the union have had a bit of a go about it as the walking route to/from it is apparently unsuitableOut of interest, would you happen to know how come they think it's unsuitable? Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| East London Line 13/04/2010 at 00:22 #8456 | |
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Vitesse
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| East London Line 13/04/2010 at 18:18 #8470 | |
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tgb
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Blimey, if thats the case we'll not have many walking routes left - Loads of them have no physical separation from running lines!!! I mean as drivers we are trained to walk next to the line - what is the problem ? Tony Log in to reply |
| East London Line 13/04/2010 at 18:46 #8471 | |
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UKTrainMan
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I've seen an S&T guy turn up on his own at a single-gantry dropper type signal thing (i.e: it's one signal above the down running line in a two track area, there's a large square base thing to the structure, a ladder (of course), then a short walkway with fencing on both sides leading to a small ladder that goes down into the area behind the actual signal) to reattach the signal plate that was loose and that's above a line where the speed limit is probably around 100mph and just before a 125mph speed board. :rolleyes: Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| East London Line 13/04/2010 at 20:29 #8473 | |
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Vitesse
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| East London Line 13/04/2010 at 21:44 #8475 | |
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UKTrainMan
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20 second station stop? Reminds me of Canning Town - Jubilee Line trains do a 20 second stop there at least going Northbound if not Southbound too. A woman in crutches was about to / trying to board a Northbound train and the driver shuts the doors on her. The next train came along and I noticed a guy putting his foot against the door to stop it closing on him - when he removed his foot the door flew shut. Very dangerous in my opnion - what happens if a child got caught between the doors just doesn't bear thinking about! I think it's stupid for TfL / LUL to put safety at risk for the sake of punctuality, surely they just need to work out their timetables better (Yes, London Underground does run to a timetable!) and leave enough of a gap for trains to make a safe stop at a station without causing a knock on effect for other trains. I guess I'd really have to see this walkway myself to make a proper comment on it. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| East London Line 13/04/2010 at 22:03 #8476 | |
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Vitesse
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| East London Line 14/04/2010 at 09:41 #8488 | |
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kbarber
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Vitesse said:The only way you can reasonably achieve this is by whacking it straight into notch 4 upto 30mph, coast a few seconds then solidly brake in step 2 all the way to the stop board. Shades of the (steam age) Jazz. Log in to reply |
| East London Line 15/04/2010 at 07:48 #8521 | |
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Vitesse
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Well, heard yeserday that the opening of the core setion that was supposed to be today has been set back till Monday now
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| East London Line 15/04/2010 at 11:02 #8528 | |
DriverCurran
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Nothing wrong with whites of the eyes driving Was wondering why with the new track layout that the 'northbound' line now rises up a makeshift bank just the thames side of surrey canal junction. I know the former alignment was on the flat Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| East London Line 15/04/2010 at 11:27 #8529 | |
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clive
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It's ready for the next stage, where another branch heads for Clapham Junction via Queen's Road Peckham.
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| East London Line 15/04/2010 at 16:34 #8531 | |
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DriverCurran
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Ah ok, cheers for that Clive, didnt know that there was going to be another branch coming off of it Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| East London Line 26/04/2010 at 20:44 #8785 | |
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UKTrainMan
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Very short notice but.... Check this out! Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| East London Line 27/04/2010 at 16:40 #8794 | |
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TRC666
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I can confirm the line did indeed open today, I was on the 12:05 Dalston Junction – New Cross.
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| East London Line 07/06/2010 at 07:34 #9508 | |
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tgb
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I have only been belting up and down the fast lines lately and have been amazed at how many LOROL units have been running. And then last week I had a Victoria to London Brdige via the Palace - all ok up until leaving Crystal Palace and then.... red, yellow, red, red, red, yellow all the way to New Cross Gate. Was 9 late into London Bridge. Chatting to other drivers this is not unusual now. Are there too many LOROL trains trying to be squeezed in ? You can only get so many on a stretch of line before you really start to impact punctuality.
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| East London Line 07/06/2010 at 09:59 #9512 | |
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Vitesse
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Very true, theres currently 8 trains per hour each way between NXG and sydenham, 4 palaces and 4 W/croydons. Just a case of too many trains and not enough track I think
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