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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:06 #127949
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If your loader isn't on V5.2, make sure you hit press for updates to get it.
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:06 #127950
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Trying to run the update but it says SimSig is up to date but am still missing almost all the licenses
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:07 #127951
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TylerE in post 127891 said:
Can we please have an option to get the new fonts back? As some one with not so great vision the new font is very soft and hard to read. The width seems very narrow and intercharacter spacing (kerning) isn't very good. (Pl looks almost like an H, for insstance).
TylerE in post 127903 said:
I really dislike the new "toolbar". Sad to see that Simsig has fallen into the cult of the hamburger menu. BRING BACK REAL MENUS!!!!
TylerE in post 127904 said:
Is there an option to rollback?

I much prefer v4 and would rather just stick with the latest v4 version of sims. I don't play multiplayer.
TylerE in post 127916 said:
Better than not being able to play any of the multitude of sims I've already purchased for more than 5 minutes without my eyes hurting because I'm struggling to read the font.
I think we're going to need a screenshot because the font is larger than before and much easier to read as it's a vector font instead of a bitmap font.

Is there anything you DO like?

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:08 #127952
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valenta43002 in post 127950 said:
Trying to run the update but it says SimSig is up to date but am still missing almost all the licenses
What version of the loader are you on?

When the loader V5.2 starts up, it should offer you a wizard to transition your licenses if it detects old version license on the machine.

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:10 #127953
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5.2 the wizard went through the manager so quickly I didn’t have a chance to transition
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:12 #127954
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When I open the loader, it's v5.2 but clicking check for updates simply says I'm up to date. It isn't offering me the chance to run the updater again and my purchased simulations still aren't showing.
What can I try?!

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:13 #127955
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Updated a while ago and found my licenses not allocated.
Have now updated again (showing 5.2) but still no licenses.
Have re-run the Check for updates again, but no luck.
P.S. DEFINITELY own Marylebone and it was allocated to this machine.

I did not get any Wizard to transition my licenses.




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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:14 #127957
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ExDistrictDriver in post 127954 said:
When I open the loader, it's v5.2 but clicking check for updates simply says I'm up to date. It isn't offering me the chance to run the updater again and my purchased simulations still aren't showing.
What can I try?!
valenta43002 in post 127953 said:
5.2 the wizard went through the manager so quickly I didn’t have a chance to transition
Are you being offered the wizard again when you start up the loader?

For reference the wizard looks like this


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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:15 #127958
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To add to the previous I thought of kicking off Kings Cross.
Another error message.


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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:16 #127959
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No biggie, but I have two Salisburys in the list (when starting a new sim only), one yellow and one green. Read More links to https://www.SimSig.co.uk/Product/Details/72. Attempting to install overlays the existing sim content.

Right-click gives a "request license unlock" option which just pops up a dialog full of HTML source from the website... (!)

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:16 #127960
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No, it simply loads into the v5.2 loader - no option to run the wizard again. I tried logging out and back in again, but still no luck :-(
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:16 #127961
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No I’m not currently tying to reboot by machine so see if it helps
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:17 #127962
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To answer Karl (though I not his comment was not to my post), when I start the Loader it goes straight into the main screen.


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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:19 #127963
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I’m getting the same
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:19 #127964
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Is there a link to the full changelog? keep finding loads of little changes, such as the changes to sims like Edge hill so would be cool to see all the changes made if possible
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:19 #127966
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nroberts in post 127958 said:
To add to the previous I thought of kicking off Kings Cross.
Another error message.

At what point did you get this error message come up? What version of kings cross did the loader screen say it was in the description window?

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:20 #127967
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If you have run Loader V5 and did the upgrade wizard when the wizard was not working correctly, it thinks you don't need to upgrade. But there is a solution that has been mentioned a couple of times: Run the old License Manager. Log in. Wait for it to say "synchronising". Exit. Do not deallocate anything
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:23 #127968
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headshot119 in post 127965 said:
If people are still having issues where there licenses haven't transitioned.....

You can open up the old license manager for one final time.

C:\Program Files (x86)\SimSig\SimSigLicense.exe and either allocate your licenses one by one, or request a bulk unlock. Once you've done that they should work fine in V5 :)

This will only affect a limited number of people who ran the wizard before we fixed a minor issue, always use the wizard in the first instance
Solved. Opened the old license Manager (no need to do anything, but a message popped up saying it was allocating the licenses). Then started the new loader again and got the Wizard and now my licenses are back in the new loader. (no need to manually deallocate/allocate or unlock the licenses).

BTW, posted in case it helps someone else with the same issue.

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P.S. The Kings Cross sim still comes up as an invalid .ZIP archive

EDIT 2:
Deleted the .sim file for KX and restarted loader. I was offered it. I applied the update. Still the same invalid .ZIP

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However if I ignore the popup error it would appear to load OK anyway.
Small detail to take care of sometime. During the update, the "Close" button appears to be active but does absolutely nothing until the update is finished. Maybe gray it out until the update is complete. At one point in the updates - probably an Internet blip - it appeared as though it had finished. However the close button did nothing. It then continued updating and only became (the Close button) responsive then.

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:27 #127969
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Thank you so much! Everything seems to be showing again now!
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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:30 #127970
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nroberts in post 127968 said:
EDIT:
P.S. The Kings Cross sim still comes up as an invalid .ZIP archive

EDIT 2:
Deleted the .sim file for KX and restarted loader. I was offered it. I applied the update. Still the same invalid .ZIP
To clarify, is this error when you try to update the sim, or try to run the sim?

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:31 #127971
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GeoffM in post 127970 said:
nroberts in post 127968 said:
EDIT:
P.S. The Kings Cross sim still comes up as an invalid .ZIP archive

EDIT 2:
Deleted the .sim file for KX and restarted loader. I was offered it. I applied the update. Still the same invalid .ZIP
To clarify, is this error when you try to update the sim, or try to run the sim?
Geoff, when trying to run the sim. I select it, hit next and I get the popup (I posted a pic a few posts up). If ignored, however it does appear to load up well. I haven't tried it with any timetable, but the display seemed fine.

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 20:35 #127972
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nroberts in post 127971 said:
GeoffM in post 127970 said:
nroberts in post 127968 said:
EDIT:
P.S. The Kings Cross sim still comes up as an invalid .ZIP archive

EDIT 2:
Deleted the .sim file for KX and restarted loader. I was offered it. I applied the update. Still the same invalid .ZIP
To clarify, is this error when you try to update the sim, or try to run the sim?
Geoff, when trying to run the sim. I select it, hit next and I get the popup (I posted a pic a few posts up). If ignored, however it does appear to load up well. I haven't tried it with any timetable, but the display seemed fine.
Sorry, I missed that. I've had a number of people try this and they're not getting an issue. We'll keep investigating - we may even just repackage the zip.

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 21:00 #127975
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Here's a comparison with the older font.

In general the newer fonts are, as you say, bigger, but they are also very slightly blurry, almost like a sort of quasi-semi-bold.

Despite the fonts being larger, the spacing is generally tighter, which, at least for me, is a net result of being harder to read.

I think I've identified the worse cause of my eyestrain though... it's actually the clock. It's now so much bigger and it shows seconds. This causes my eyes to continually look at it (motion attracts attention) and then have to refocus. If the clock went back to the old size and reduced prominence, or we had an option to hide seconds, that would help considerably. I know some of the older sims also displayed seconds (Hong Kong?) but those clocks were much smaller and in more muted colors.


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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 21:03 #127977
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TylerE in post 127975 said:
I know some of the older sims also displayed seconds (Hong Kong?) but those clocks were much smaller and in more muted colors.

I confused by this comment. All loader sims have shown the time in seconds (at least the ones I've played). The old .EXE sims don't show seconds.

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Loader V5 Released! 25/06/2020 at 21:14 #127983
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TylerE in post 127975 said:
Here's a comparison with the older font.

In general the newer fonts are, as you say, bigger, but they are also very slightly blurry, almost like a sort of quasi-semi-bold.

Despite the fonts being larger, the spacing is generally tighter, which, at least for me, is a net result of being harder to read.

I think I've identified the worse cause of my eyestrain though... it's actually the clock. It's now so much bigger and it shows seconds. This causes my eyes to continually look at it (motion attracts attention) and then have to refocus. If the clock went back to the old size and reduced prominence, or we had an option to hide seconds, that would help considerably. I know some of the older sims also displayed seconds (Hong Kong?) but those clocks were much smaller and in more muted colors.

Can generally be caused by
- scale not being the recommended for the pc
- display resolution not being the recommended for the pc

and potentially font smoothing can cause this as well.

I have this issue on my laptop because I run it at a strange scaling when its plugged into the office.

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